and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to dig up the article again, they might know when you jail break as you canot restore to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively breaks.
S On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method > was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between > 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the > least, it's an experience. > I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the > phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming > that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the > idea of safari not working. > To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted > randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid. > > On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales <nothingbutl...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated >> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't go >> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need >> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I >> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to >> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment. >> >> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode and >> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone >> while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information on >> what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of >> jb101. At any rate, straight from this post, >> http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple >> in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important >> info. >> >> Update #2 : The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many >> people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect: >> 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is >> easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below >> applies. >> 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac assistance. >> If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like >> SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However, >> jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white >> icon). Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail >> (Safari being the most noticeable example). >> 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or >> other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at >> the Apple logo). You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right now”. >> End of excerpt. >> >> For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency >> of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This >> means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend, >> who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so I >> cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have >> that problem. >> >> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote: >> >>> Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun. >>> >>> On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose <bmustillr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my >>>> 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like >>>> the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that >>>> at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at >>>> all. >>>> >>>> On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would >>>>> nit >>>>> consider jailbreaking. >>>>> >>>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That's what I'm reading. >>>>>> >>>>>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out. Really the only reason I'd >>>>>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name >>>>>>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the >>>>>>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple. >>>>>>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Rose, this is fantastic. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for this resource! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be >>>>>>>>> found >>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version >>>>>>>>> designed >>>>>>>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb >>>>>>>>> apps, >>>>>>>>> also described in jb104. >>>>>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip. >>>>>>>>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable >>>>>>>>> jailbreak >>>>>>>>> information. >>>>>>>>> Hth, >>>>>>>>> Rose >>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to >>>>>>>>>> jailbreak. Maybe provide a link? I was thinking of giving it a >>>>>>>>>> shot >>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>> was talked out of it on the list. I like the idea of a jailbreak >>>>>>>>>> process >>>>>>>>>> though. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an >>>>>>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover >>>>>>>>>>> doesn't >>>>>>>>>>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but >>>>>>>>>>> everything >>>>>>>>>>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. >>>>>>>>>>> Besides, >>>>>>>>>>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone >>>>>>>>>>> suggest >>>>>>>>>>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted >>>>>>>>>>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev >>>>>>>>>>> team >>>>>>>>>>> really should be accessible. 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