Many web developers I know have gone to the Mac because they can do
all their work on one box. A big part good coding is to make sure it
works across platforms and browsers. With the Mac and VMware testing
everything out is pretty straightforward. And with Unix underneath, all
those platform possibilities are also baked in. So a common setup is to
use the built-in Apache to service up web pages viewed in IE on VMWare
for testing and then use a nice GUI editor on the Mac to write the code.
As most Mac users have figured out years ago, the platform requires far
less fiddling so more time is spent getting things done. The best
developers I know of have this 'lazy streak' where they want few
distractions and do the minimum work (code) to execute the design. So
there is a very strong attraction between developers and the Mac if they
can overcome platform lock-in issues. If you're developing financial
software in a Microsoft shop, your options are limited. For web
developers, because of all the open standards, you're a bit more free to
use what's best. Sure many are familiar with Windows for development and
most people abhor changing from the known to the unknown, but those who
do have been rewarded with entire classes of problems just no longer
existing.
CB
On 9/4/10 11:53 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
Actually, you'd be surprised how receptive both IT departments and your
management are to this sort of thing.
At least where I work which is a medium sized company of about 500 employees or
so there was no resistance at all. We already did have a relationship with
Apple but when I pointed out how accessibility was included and universal
access was part of apple's thinking they jumped on it.
COuld be a california mind set but I think companies are more responsive than
you might think.
On Sep 3, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Rich Ring wrote:
Many of us have to use Windows and Windows screen readers at work. It is not
as if one can march into the bosses office and say, "We need to switch to
the Mac, because Apple's philosophy concerning universal access is the way
to go!" No, unfortunately, this is not the way things work. I do not find
Word to be difficult to use at all, and if I did, I would be hard pressed to
keep my job. Yes, I have a Mac, and I'm downloading videos with it as we
speak, but you can't throw out the baby with the bath water unless you
happen to be either self employed or unemployed.
----- Original Message -----
From: "carlene knight"<carlenefor...@gmail.com>
To:<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO
Hi:
I use Word at work and I can tell you that it has some bugs like trying to
overlap things I need to see that I find downright annoying. I wouldn't
want TextEdit to do that, nor would I want the Mac OS and windows platforms
to become too intermingled or we would just be inherrriting the problems
that we are trying to avoid by switching to OS10 in the first place. Just
my thoughts.
On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:10 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
I contacted MS about this on there feedback forum in 2007 but I have since
lost the link and there have been no results as far as I'm aware. I don't
use word anymore on windows or mac so I would not be able to say yes or
no that it is or is not accessible.
Sarah Alawami
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On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:03 AM, cathyk wrote:
Dear List,
I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO
doesn't work natively with MS Word. At one level all the work-arounds
show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every
employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes,
ability. But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and
outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every
single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get-
go? Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main
task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do. Each conversion on
its own is just a few seconds here and there. But these seconds add
up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect
badly on our capabilities.
I know some people on this list have been trying to change this. I
propose we band together, and really push for this to happen
collectively. We can certainly make it more public that despite all
the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program. I
frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft -
they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on
other matters. As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted
people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them,
which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and
could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as
an interesting technology for all.
Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up; I just can't
understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the
thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part
of mainstream technology.
In solidarity,
cathyk
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