Actually, you'd be surprised how receptive both IT departments and your 
management are to this sort of thing.

At least where I work which is a medium sized company of about 500 employees or 
so there was no resistance at all.  We already did have a relationship with 
Apple but when I pointed out how accessibility was included and universal 
access was part  of apple's thinking they jumped on it.

COuld be a california mind set but I think companies are more responsive than 
you might think.


On Sep 3, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Rich Ring wrote:

> Many of us have to use Windows and Windows screen readers at work. It is not 
> as if one can march into the bosses office and say, "We need to switch to 
> the Mac, because Apple's philosophy concerning universal access is the way 
> to go!" No, unfortunately, this is not the way things work. I do not find 
> Word to be difficult to use at all, and if I did, I would be hard pressed to 
> keep my job.  Yes, I have a Mac, and I'm downloading videos with it as we 
> speak, but you can't throw out the baby with the bath water unless you 
> happen to be either self employed or unemployed.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "carlene knight" <carlenefor...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 12:33 PM
> Subject: Re: MS Word's lack of access with VO
> 
> 
> Hi:
> 
> I use Word at work and I can tell you that it has some bugs like trying to 
> overlap things I need to see that I find downright annoying.  I wouldn't 
> want TextEdit to do that, nor would I want the Mac OS and windows platforms 
> to become too intermingled or we would just be inherrriting the problems 
> that we are trying to avoid by switching to OS10 in the first place.  Just 
> my thoughts.
> 
> 
> On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:10 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> I contacted MS about this on there feedback forum in 2007 but I have since 
>> lost the link and there have been no results as far as I'm aware. I don't 
>> use word anymore on windows or mac so I would not be able  to say yes or 
>> no that it is or is not accessible.
>> Sarah Alawami
>> MSN: marri...@gmail.com
>> aim: marri...@gmail.com:
>> 
>> website: http://music.marrie.org
>> youtube: http://youtube.com/marrie125
>> Podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com
>> Mobile site for podcast: http://marrie.podbean.com/mobile/
>> 
>> On Sep 2, 2010, at 8:03 AM, cathyk wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear List,
>>> I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO
>>> doesn't work natively with MS Word.  At one level all the work-arounds
>>> show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every
>>> employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes,
>>> ability.  But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and
>>> outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every
>>> single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get-
>>> go?  Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main
>>> task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do.  Each conversion on
>>> its own is just a few seconds here and there.  But these seconds add
>>> up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect
>>> badly on our capabilities.
>>> 
>>> I know some people on this list have been trying to change this.  I
>>> propose we band together, and really push for this to happen
>>> collectively.  We can certainly make it more public that despite all
>>> the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program.  I
>>> frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft -
>>> they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on
>>> other matters.  As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted
>>> people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them,
>>> which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and
>>> could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as
>>> an interesting technology for all.
>>> 
>>> Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up;  I just can't
>>> understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the
>>> thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part
>>> of mainstream technology.
>>> 
>>> In solidarity,
>>> cathyk
>>> 
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