Actually I can contraduct that statuemtn as they ave an aware to apple called 
the jacob bolaton award for ther eaccessbility built in to the products and 
software.

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On Sep 3, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Scott Granados wrote:

> You can thank that utterly corrupt organization called the NFB for the lack 
> of accessibility products and tools from Microsoft.
> 
> Years ago the NFB protested literally on the steps of Microsoft HQ because 
> they had received a pay off from a 3rd party that will remain nameless but 
> their initials are FS.  This seven figure payoff is to this day why the NFB 
> works against accessibility natively in products.  This is also why the NFB 
> and their allied organizations are so hostile against Apple, they don't get a 
> cut.  The NFB has done more to harm the blind community than just about 
> anyone else so you have them to thank for the lack of accessibility.  Frankly 
> if I were Microsoft after the treatment they received I would actively do 
> everything I could to insure that products weren't accessible so you didn't 
> have a bunch of pissed off militant blinks demanding justice on your doorstep.
> 
> Thanks NFB, we love you!
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 2, 2010, at 11:03 AM, cathyk wrote:
> 
>> Dear List,
>> I've been struck by how willing we are to accept the fact that VO
>> doesn't work natively with MS Word.  At one level all the work-arounds
>> show just how flexible, enterprising, and creative we are; every
>> employer should be eager to hire anyone with such spark and, yes,
>> ability.  But am I the only one who fluctuates between sadness and
>> outright anger that a program like MS Word, so standard in every
>> single thing related to word processing, isn't accessible from the get-
>> go?  Every work-around means time and energy taken away from the main
>> task at hand, whatever it is we're hoping to do.  Each conversion on
>> its own is just a few seconds here and there.  But these seconds add
>> up, plus they leave us open to unnecessary mistakes, which reflect
>> badly on our capabilities.
>> 
>> I know some people on this list have been trying to change this.  I
>> propose we band together, and really push for this to happen
>> collectively.  We can certainly make it more public that despite all
>> the claims for accessibility, VO doesn't work with a MAJOR program.  I
>> frankly don't care whether the fault lies with Apple or Microsoft -
>> they need to be made to play together, just as they surely have on
>> other matters.  As an added incentive, I know that lots more sighted
>> people are warming to the idea of having long documents read to them,
>> which means that this improvement would have broader benefits and
>> could even be a marketing tool for Apple to tout its screen reader as
>> an interesting technology for all.
>> 
>> Please excuse this rant, but it's been building up;  I just can't
>> understand why we're so willing to accept the status quo when the
>> thing that excited so many of us about the Mac was finally being part
>> of mainstream technology.
>> 
>> In solidarity,
>> cathyk
>> 
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