Yeah they are a shatter proof glass as stated, like used in helicopter screens. They also have a metal band around them that is the cause of the problems people are experiencing. But as you've said a case can help them continue to work without problems.
The reason for using these amterials is to be able to recycle the materials if need be. -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan Sent: Wednesday, 14 July 2010 1:38 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes Hey Brian, I'm told by an Apple guy that, while the iPhone is made of glass, it's not your ordinary garden variety glass, but the glass like the kind of glass in helicopter windshields. I don't think that will shatter with normal handling and dropping and things. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Jul 13, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: > Well, I have an iPhone 4, am a left-handed person, and haven't had any problems. > > Of course, I'm using an extremely thin hard plastic slip-case to protect my $700, mostly glass, phone, as just about anyone reasonable would that doesn't have a bottomless bank account. Yes, it looks nice, all glass and stainless steel. It isn't real durable that way. I'd like something else, but I like what it can do more than I dislike how it is made. And, besides, I can fix its construction issues with a case. It's kind of like, do what you gotta do to make the tech work for you, or else chill out on Symbian or Windows Mobile, where the accessible apps are few and those OSes are dropping accessibility support in about a year. As a blind guy, I can do so much more with my iPhone than I could with any of my Nokias, so I can overlook a flaw, particularly if it doesn't affect me. > > I know that, if you hold it just in the right way, without the case on, that you can cause the signal strength to reduce. I could do that with my Nokia E71, though, so don't know why it is such a big deal that it happens on iPhone. > > If you don't like the iPhone, then more power to what ever choice suits you. If you like the idea of the iPhone, then, I suggest that you go and try one out for yourself. Most places will let you do a 30 day return if you're not satisfied. You might find out that the majorly hyped supposed problems aren't a problem for you, either. Since I haven't seen stories about people returning their iPhones in droves, I'd say that there are about 2,000,000 people by now that agree with me. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Simon F > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 3:56 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: A warning about Digit-Eyes > > Yeah apple have done great things, that's why they don't appear to be correcting The issue with the loss of signal on the iPhone 4, when it's is held in a left hand and the signal is lost. > > When they fix this issue, they'll sell a lot more. > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor > Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:15 p.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes > > Maybe an RFID reader will come in the next iPhone or some other idevice. I think it is just amazing what Apple has done with these devices thus far. I personally would like to see some sort of haptic feedback so we can get a tactual sense of icons and controls. I know Apple is working on this. > Patents have been filed by Apple regarding methods for haptic feedback. > > Doug > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2010-07-12, at 5:40 PM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Doug, I think this was something APple had explored and may >> eventually do. Apple has all sorts of ideas floating about. :) On Jul >> 12, 2010, at > 2:18 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote: >> >>> No RFID reader in iPhone 4 as far as I can tell. My knowledge is >>> limited > on this subject as well. It may depend on the scanner being used. >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 2010-07-12, at 6:44 AM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Doug, >>>> >>>> We are probably straying a bit off topic for the list, but to >>>> answer > your question, I really do not know. It may be for capturing information about a specific product, you would have to get pretty close. The distances you refer too is more useful for warehouses, dockyards, and such. I am not sure if the ability to read is based on the scanner or the RFID tag itself. > So, I think you can pretty much figure my knowledge is quite limited, other than what I read. I do not know when Apple might put these readers in the phone, but I thought it was to be included in version 4, but that I believe did not happen yet. >>>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote: >>>> >>>>> That's interesting, RFID would be much better for identifying >>>>> products > because you would not have to point a device at the product in question to identify it. Just get a reader in the general direztion of the of the product and we should be able to identify it. As I understand it, the range of RFID is quite large, something in the range of 30 feet. How do we determine a product when we have a number of products in one area, a covert full of cans and bottles, each presenting a signal that has a 30 foot radius? >>>>> >>>>> Doug >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 2010-07-11, at 9:33 PM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Doug, >>>>>> >>>>>> I do not know how many products have them now, but I suspect more >>>>>> than > we know. For example, I recently learned that the recycle bins our county provides us has a RFID chip imbedded in them. Apparently the data collected from the chips let's the county know how often we put the bins out. 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