Hi Scott, You noted that you had an article on this topic. I don't see that I have a copy of it. Could you send it to my gmail address?
As I noted earlier, our website does interface with the Metrologic scanner or any other scanner that connects via USB or emulates a keyboard. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: > Nancy, > > I neglected to comment on this statement, but I agree and that statement > was rather insulting. I have to say that as much participation as you and > others have demonstrated on these e-mail lists, shows a level of commitment. > I see lots of potential in this application and although I do not have > one of those bluetooth laser barcode readers, I have thought about it. Like > I said, for me it would just speed up the process, but then I suffer from > lack of patients. :) Although now that I have gotten better with scanning > barcodes with the camera, I have shorten the time it takes. However, I see > the bluetooth scanner as a way to potentially make it easier for vendor > operators to take inventory, possibly blind people to work in retail doing a > number of different tasks, and so forth. I see the scanner as a natural > extension to DigitEyes. Of course I sent you that article that I still see > possibilities with. I'm so full of ideas, but then some say I'm just full of > it. :) > On Jul 9, 2010, at 12:25 AM, Nancy Miracle wrote: > > Actually, I'd disagree with that last statement. We have a lot of > incentive to improve it because we want our customers to be happy and if you > are not happy, we are not happy either. > > Nancy Miracle > Digital Miracles, L.L.C. > > > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Bryan Smart <bryansm...@bryansmart.com>wrote: > >> Yes; I'd be happy if they allowed us to use a Bluetooth laser scanner. >> Even though a separate device would be required for the higher quality >> scans, there are small scanners available. Beyond that, the important fact >> is that the CPU portion (the iPhone), is very mobile. We can, today, use a >> computer with a scanner to identify objects. Carrying a computer around the >> house isn't handy. Carrying an iPhone to do the processing, though, isn't >> that difficult. So, for me, there would still be value. >> >> I suggest that they retain the functionality with the built-in camera, but >> allow Bluetooth scanning for those that can purchase a scanner. >> >> I'm not sure that I'm going to pursue a refund, but I'd encourage others >> to withhold their money until the scanning quality has been addressed. If >> you just buy the program as-is, they have little incentive to improve it. >> >> Bryan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto: >> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell >> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 8:31 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes >> >> Bryan, >> >> I have used this application successfully with several types of packages. >> I have found cans to be particularly tricky. I can tell you that my greatest >> success seem to be starting out with my 3GS against the item, and once I >> started the scan, slowly back the phone away from the item. Again, this >> worked for me on several items. I have not run all over the house grabbing >> everything with a barcode, so I can't say that I have encountered every >> possible packaging type and this refers to shiny packaging, different color >> combinations, etc. I don't even know for sure if these are factors. I agree >> it would be nice if an external laser barcode reader could be used because >> this would seriously speed up the process of scanning items in a store etc. >> I put that suggestion out there and not sure if it will be considered or >> not. I realize carrying such a device does defeat some of the purpose >> perhaps, but it does allow for additional opportunities, such as someone who >> maintains inventory etc. Perhaps you have and if not, share your experiences >> and suggestion. >> On Jul 8, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: >> >> > I'm writing to share my experiences with Digit-Eyes. >> > >> > I tried it on my iPhone 4, with several bar codes, and it didn't >> recognize even one of them. I don't mean that the code was located, but not >> recognized. I mean that the code was not even detected as being in the >> image. I'd tap the scan button, and the constant clicking would begin to let >> me know that scanning was in progress. I was scanning in a brightly lit >> room, and the screen curtain was not on. Rotating the containers in front of >> the iPhone camera, with it held about a foot away from them, produced no >> results. I had a sighted friend deliberately place the bar code in view, >> something that I would have not been able to do on my own, and it wasn't >> recognized, either. We just kept trying different angles, and rotating, but >> all we got was more clicking from the Digit-Eyes scanner. >> > >> > I had some experience with creating a system like this several years >> ago. At that time, CCD cameras were not as accurate. Even so, for best >> results, we determined that a 3D laser scanner would be required in order >> for bar codes to be detected in the way that a blind person is likely to >> present them to the scanner: at angles, in shadow, etc. This is the >> technique used by other commercial systems like the ID Mate. I was lead to >> understand that this wasn't a concern with Digit-Eyes, due to the higher >> quality camera in the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4. However, based on my results, >> I'd say that this isn't so. >> > >> > Perhaps Digit-Eyes works better with dedicated labels, but, if I were >> > to make dedicated labels, I'd just create Braille labels. I realize >> > that everyone doesn't read Braille, and so audio labels still might be >> > of use to some people. However, the advertised function of being able >> > to read bar codes seems to not work, or else, it might work, but >> > requires a level of alignment precision that I've not been able to >> > achieve. I'm usually quite capable when it comes to reasoning through >> > these types of situations, so my conclusion is that I've either >> > overlooked something profound, or else the level of alignment that is >> > required for a good scan is grater than most blind people will >> > independently obtain without assistance. If you need assistance, you >> > might as well ask the sighted person what is on the label. *shrug* >> > >> > I'd like to hear the experiences of others. However, I can't personally >> suggest that anyone spend the $30 that is charged for this app if they >> expect to use it as a bar code scanner. >> > >> > Bryan >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> . >> > For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<macvisionaries%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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