I'd be really interested to hear from you about your experiences as first a sighted user and now a blind user of Apple products. If you get a moment, would you mind emailing me off list? My address is olivianor...@me.com I'm also happy to help you with iWork. :) Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs
On Jun 16, 2010, at 3:55 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > Thank you that is very kind of you and I may take you up on that offer. I > have thought about iWork as it might be the only option, was hoping the new > version might be out by no. I also believe OpenOffice is also VO friendly, > anyone had experience with it? Sadly i do need MS Office compatibility and > it looks like the next version of Office is going to be no better. > Unfortunately I have to use Windows at work, wish they used Macs! > > to be honest now I have got to grips with most of VoiceOver's shortcuts and > Apple's keyboard shortcuts I find I am now whizzing around the mac faster > than I did when I could see!!!! I find with VoiceOver you have to do very > little reaching for key strokes thanks to the rota and VO buttons and cursor > keys/touch pad. With jawS you have to use the number pad a lot and the > function keys for surfing etc. And there is a forms mode? What is all that > about? > On 16 Jun 2010, at 23:33, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> I can't speak to FB on windows, either, haven't used jaws in three years, >> have no plans or desire to go back to windows! >> Have you tried iWork? It has similar functionality to MS office and works >> very well with VO. You can also read and work with documents created by MS >> office. If you need to work wiht someone using office, you can easily save >> documents in MS word, excell, and powerpoint formats. If you have any >> questions about any of this, feel free to email me off list. >> Olivia >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> On Jun 16, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> I have a 18 month old MacBook which has the new track pad and I also have a >>> 2 and a half year old iMac and I have experienced the same problem with >>> both machines. was on the Apple site today and was trying to download a >>> manual for the iPod Nano and VoiceOver had a heart attack. >>> Before Safari 5 I was using iChat to chat to friends via Facebook (jabber) >>> and now it won't work, it connects ok but all I see is a series of numbers >>> when someone tries to chat to me. Very frustrating as I have only been a >>> VO user for 2 months as I lost my vision in March. I have been a mac user >>> for 10 years. >>> >>> Sadly many apps I used to use do not really work with VO such MS Office, >>> MSN Messenger keeps crashing and I am unable to use Logic Pro 9 and Reason. >>> I have emailed the makers of Reason and they tell me they have no plans to >>> add VO support to their products (money down the drain for me then), just >>> hoping Apple add support to Logic. >>> >>> All in all VO is wonderful and very easy to use, its the third party >>> developers that are the problem. I also wish Facebook was easier to use, I >>> am having to switch between Mac and Iphone to use it and VO is not a >>> pleasurable experience on either device. I can't say at this stage if fb >>> is any better on Windows with JAWS. I will be learning JAWS for work soon. >>> On 16 Jun 2010, at 22:00, Olivia Norman wrote: >>> >>>> I wonder the same thing. My macbook is a year old and has the current >>>> trackpad and specs. I am out of town, but am going to wait until I get >>>> home to update my iMac, which I got in December of 2009. It will be >>>> interesting to see whether they have the same problems. >>>> >>>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >>>> >>>> On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm really curious. I'm not experiencing any of these issues with Safari >>>>> 5. I use Safari all day to research the answers to queries in the >>>>> translations I do. I also use Audible.com and have no problems with that, >>>>> either. >>>>> >>>>> I'm wondering if this depends on the hardware being used. I have a >>>>> 3-year-old MacBook which has a couple of major differences from the >>>>> current crop of Laptops. The volume is controlled by F4 and F5, and it >>>>> just has a normal trackpad, not the multi-touch variety that can be used >>>>> with the trackpad commander. Oh yes, and there's only one Option key. >>>>> There is an Enter key on the right where the new ones have the second >>>>> Option key. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Anne >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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