Yeah I'm already doing that. Instead of insert Z I find sometimes do the left and right arrow thing to turn quick nav off. I've done alt c and alt x forgetting that oops alt is alt on windows not command.
I've missed this thread as I was on vacation but to keep myself sane when using safari for instance I gthink to myself it's a weerd fire fox with a weerd doesn't go to the bottum like you'd expect when wanting to see your Youtube notifacations NVDA. Yeah VO feels NVDA at times. ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Herbie Allen <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2025 3:22 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Guide for switching from windows to Mac? Yes indeed. Also, in regards to both systems, if you know Windows and Mac well, it’s not that hard,. That being said I have had the occasional Brain fart when I do a Command Q on Windows or alt f4r on the Mac and wonder why nothing happens. On Nov 22, 2025, at 12:39, Kendra Schaber <[email protected]> wrote: Hi all! There is also the Mac class at IBUG for those who currently own their first Mac computer or for those who have access to one and wish to learn it either for the very first time or as a blind user after going blind later in life. They run twice per year; once in the fall and once in the spring. Make sure to regester ASAP if you wish to make the spring offering because they fill up, and I’m not sure if that one is already full. I’m finishing up the fall term one and it has been very helpful to me learning my own Mac laptop. Yes, I still have Windows laptops, but I picked up a MacBook Pro last year around the winter hollidays and I wanted to learn how to use my Mac book pro so it’s not a glorified paperweight since I bought it to use it, and not as a very expensive paperweight. You also get a lot of good resources to use both in the class and long after the class ends. You can also attend the IBUG Mac related meetings they offer to anyone, regardless of being in their Mac class. They run the main Mac talk on the fourth Tuesday of each month and their Mac talk mini on the second and fourth Tuesdays of each month. If you can’t or don’t want to take the Mac class, you can always attend these meetings to get your questions answered. Of course, you still have the manuals and guides that exist, but from my own personal experience with learning tech in general, having human guides are much better than any kind of written guide. Not that you can’t use one in a pinch, but humans tend to be more accurate than the written guides when they know what they’re doing. The ones at IBUG sertainly do so it’s worth a look. Many of the students in there own Macs they got for Christmas from their tech purchasing family members. Not all of them though because one is a teacher who has to teach the Mac, one or two know the Mac when they were sighted, but they recently went blind and have to relearn the Mac from the Voice Over user’s perspective. Some have access to a Mac and are conciddering on getting one of their own and in one or two cases, they simply want to know how to use one to help others such as the teacher. There are different folks in there who want to learn the Mac for different reasons and just owning your own Mac regardless of how you got it counts, so long as you either own it or you’re allowed to learn off of someone else’s Mac with their permition. They don’t even care if you also own a Windows computer so long as you can use a Mac to do your homework on. You don’t have to take the Mac class, but it’s another good option to learn how to use one for those, like me, who also have a background with owning and using Windows computers. Kendra Sent from my iPhone On Nov 22, 2025, at 10:13, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries <[email protected]> wrote: On 22/11/25 11:15, Dennis Long wrote: I won’t bounce between operating systems. Way to much to remember by doing that. 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