One of the most striking differences for Linux and Windows users is
that, on VoiceOver for mac, it's what NVDA calls "object navigation"
everywhere. You're essentially using screen reader commands to review
and interact with the tree of objects created by the accessibility
interfaces.
On 22/11/25 16:13, Herbie Allen wrote:
As someone who started on Windows and transitioned to the Mac later, I
found that knowing both Windows and the iPhone was a big help. Knowing
how to use element shortcuts for instance like keys for web
navigation, copy and paste, etc. I already used Safari on my iPhone so
understanding things like the rotor, and just how Apple labels things
made the learning that much easier for me. I did have to learn the
Mac, but a lot of it was applying concepts I already knew.
On Nov 22, 2025, at 14:34, Greg Wocher <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
There is a youtube channel called stur it up that has free lessons on
the mac. This channel does a pretty good job at explaining voiceover
on the mac. Notice that stur is spelled with a U instead of an I.
Greg Wocher
On Nov 22, 2025, at 1:39 PM, Kendra Schaber <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi all!
There is also the Mac class at IBUG for those who currently own
their first Mac computer or for those who have access to one and
wish to learn it either for the very first time or as a blind user
after going blind later in life. They run twice per year; once in
the fall and once in the spring. Make sure to regester ASAP if you
wish to make the spring offering because they fill up, and I’m not
sure if that one is already full. I’m finishing up the fall term one
and it has been very helpful to me learning my own Mac laptop. Yes,
I still have Windows laptops, but I picked up a MacBook Pro last
year around the winter hollidays and I wanted to learn how to use my
Mac book pro so it’s not a glorified paperweight since I bought it
to use it, and not as a very expensive paperweight. You also get a
lot of good resources to use both in the class and long after the
class ends. You can also attend the IBUG Mac related meetings they
offer to anyone, regardless of being in their Mac class. They run
the main Mac talk on the fourth Tuesday of each month and their Mac
talk mini on the second and fourth Tuesdays of each month. If you
can’t or don’t want to take the Mac class, you can always attend
these meetings to get your questions answered. Of course, you still
have the manuals and guides that exist, but from my own personal
experience with learning tech in general, having human guides are
much better than any kind of written guide. Not that you can’t use
one in a pinch, but humans tend to be more accurate than the written
guides when they know what they’re doing. The ones at IBUG sertainly
do so it’s worth a look. Many of the students in there own Macs they
got for Christmas from their tech purchasing family members. Not all
of them though because one is a teacher who has to teach the Mac,
one or two know the Mac when they were sighted, but they recently
went blind and have to relearn the Mac from the Voice Over user’s
perspective. Some have access to a Mac and are conciddering on
getting one of their own and in one or two cases, they simply want
to know how to use one to help others such as the teacher. There are
different folks in there who want to learn the Mac for different
reasons and just owning your own Mac regardless of how you got it
counts, so long as you either own it or you’re allowed to learn off
of someone else’s Mac with their permition. They don’t even care if
you also own a Windows computer so long as you can use a Mac to do
your homework on. You don’t have to take the Mac class, but it’s
another good option to learn how to use one for those, like me, who
also have a background with owning and using Windows computers.
Kendra
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 22, 2025, at 10:13, 'Jason J.G. White' via MacVisionaries
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 22/11/25 11:15, Dennis Long wrote:
I won’t bounce between operating systems.Way to much to remember
by doing that.
I do it frequently and never had a problem remembering.
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