That’s so weird. But I’m glad to know someone else had that issue. I couldn’t imagine why I would have chosen that setting. At least this offers an explanation. And, at least it was an easy fix, once Brad suggested I check it out. Cheers, Donna
> On Jul 3, 2024, at 9:39 AM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Sent from my IPhone > > >> On Jul 3, 2024, at 10:38 AM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I was watching this thpread wondering if anybody would come upon that >> problem and it seems you did Donna Just before I piped in. I had the same >> problem when I upgraded to Sonoma. It seems like VO defaults to have the >> mouse pointer track the VO cursor and disassociating the two of them solves >> that problem of menu navigation. Matter fact Brad I think you’re the one >> that told me about it. >> Sent from my IPhone >> >> >>> On Jul 3, 2024, at 10:05 AM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> OK, good to know. >>> Glad you got it fixed. >>> >>> - Brad - >>> >>> On Jul 3, 2024, at 07:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hey, Brad, thanks! I’m not sure why, but my Mouse Pointer was set to >>> Moves Voiceover Cursor. I’m a little perplexed by that, because I can’t >>> imagine that I would have set it that way, but changing it to ignores VO >>> cursor solved the issue. >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 10:11 PM, Bradford Snyder <wb...@swbell.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> OK, now I am the one who is confused. >>>> Other than the changes to Quick Key Navigation, there is little difference >>>> in Sonoma, compared to Ventura. >>>> I have been using Sonoma since it was released in October, with no issues. >>>> I have found Sonoma to be a very stable release. >>>> The only thing I can think of, is to make sure that your mouse pointer is >>>> set to ignore the VoiceOver cursor. >>>> You can do this in VoiceOver Utility > Navigation, and look for the item >>>> labeled “Ignores VoiceOver cursor Mouse pointer: pop up button”. >>>> >>>> >>>> - Brad - >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 21:34, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Brad, >>>> >>>> Thanks for responding, but I’m very confused. None of the settings in >>>> Quicknav in the VO utility seem relevant at all. Single key Quicknav is >>>> turned off, and that is causing me to be taken to Recent Items. If I >>>> press Vo-Q again, Single Key Quicknav is turned on, and in that case, the >>>> keystrokes I described earlier result in the VO message, Same Heading Not >>>> Found. I can’t imagine what Apple was trying to accomplish with this >>>> change, but I’d really appreciate it if you could give me the steps to >>>> make VO function as it did in Ventura. >>>> TIA, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 9:02 PM, Bradford Snyder <wb...@swbell.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Rebooting won’t fix this issue. >>>>> You need to turn off Single Key Navigation by pressing VO + Q. >>>>> This feature used to only work when Quick Nav was enabled, but Apple >>>>> changed how it works with the introduction of Sonoma. >>>>> In subsequent updates to Sonoma, Apple refined this, and added options to >>>>> modify how this feature works. If you wish, you can restore the original >>>>> functionality, and make the feature work the way it did before Sonoma. >>>>> Go to VoiceOver Utility > Commanders, and select the Quick Nav tab, and >>>>> here you can review all the options introduced with Sonoma. >>>>> >>>>> HTH. >>>>> >>>>> - Brad - >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 19:11, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Herbie, >>>>> >>>>> I’ve rebooted, and I’m still having the same issue. Is there some >>>>> setting I need to change? >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 5:13 PM, Herbie Allen <herbie.al...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Try restarting your VO as that should still work. I just tried your >>>>>> exact steps and had no issues. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just upgraded to Sonoma. 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