Hi Brad,

Thanks for responding, but I’m very confused.  None of the settings in Quicknav 
in the VO utility seem relevant at all.  Single key Quicknav is turned off, and 
that is causing me to be taken to Recent Items.  If I press Vo-Q again, Single 
Key Quicknav is turned on, and in that case, the keystrokes I described earlier 
result in the VO message, Same Heading Not Found.  I can’t imagine what Apple 
was trying to accomplish with this change, but I’d really appreciate it if you 
could give me the steps to make VO function as it did in Ventura.
TIA,
Donna

> On Jul 2, 2024, at 9:02 PM, Bradford Snyder <wb...@swbell.net> wrote:
> 
> Rebooting won’t fix this issue.
> You need to turn off Single Key Navigation by pressing VO + Q.
> This feature used to only work when Quick Nav was enabled, but Apple changed 
> how it works with the introduction of Sonoma.
> In subsequent updates to Sonoma, Apple refined this, and added options to 
> modify how this feature works.  If you wish, you can restore the original 
> functionality, and make the feature work the way it did before Sonoma.
> Go to VoiceOver Utility > Commanders, and select the Quick Nav tab, and here 
> you can review all the options introduced with Sonoma.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 2, 2024, at 19:11, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Herbie,
> 
> I’ve rebooted, and I’m still having the same issue.  Is there some setting I 
> need to change?
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 5:13 PM, Herbie Allen <herbie.al...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Try restarting your VO as that should still work. I just tried your exact 
>> steps and had no issues.
>> 
>>> On Jul 2, 2024, at 16:39, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I just upgraded to Sonoma.  In the Mail app, I can no longer go to the 
>>> messages menu by pressing Vo-M and then typing the letters MES.  The only 
>>> way I seem to be able to navigate to messages is to arrow through all the 
>>> menu options until I get to Messages, and then up arrow Under Messages 
>>> until I get the option I want.  Is there really no faster way to do this in 
>>> Sonoma?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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