simplest of answers, <smile> cause one may be needed now rather than three months later? On 2010-03-28, at 7:04 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> Hi, > > Why get an iPhone now when a new one will become in out in like 3 months? > On Mar 27, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > >> I just ordered an IPhone 3gs and what decided me finally was hearing a >> podcast about android accessibility on the Blindcooltech feed. The two big >> advantages the IPhone 3gs has over Android and this is as of March 27, 2010 >> are that both email and browsing are accessible. Those two parts of Android >> still aren't accessible. What blind people will get that buy Android is the >> same accessibility that was available on the LG3600 phone when that became >> available. But that's why me and verizon parted company all those years ago >> and I'm still happy that split happened!On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Josh de >> Lioncourt wrote: >> >>> >>> It's quite possible to use the iPHone one handed. I do this frequently >>> while walking around. It's, of course, easier to use two hands when >>> you can, but that's true with any mobile phone. Anyway, there's no >>> problem using the iPhone one handed, and it isn't all that much >>> different from using any other phone that way. :) >>> >>> >>> Josh de Lioncourt >>> ?my other mail provider is an owl? >>> >>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt >>> Music: http://stage19music.com >>> Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com >>> Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com >>> GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2009, at 2:03 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>> >>>> Using it on the go I mean, while I?m walking around. >>>> >>>> With the n82 and other nokia phones I can do this, either on a call >>>> or typing / reading email or text messages, I can do this with one >>>> hand, which I don?t think I could dowith the IPhone. >>>> >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> ] On Behalf Of patrickneazer >>>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 July 2009 6:34 a.m. >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility >>>> >>>> Hello Simon and all: >>>> >>>> I want to ask you what you mean by using it on the go. I am asking >>>> because unless there is something I am missing ... and there may >>>> be ... the iphone is quite usable. That does not mean you have to >>>> use it ... it just means that your usability concerns may be >>>> misplaced. >>>> On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:13 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks yes I understand all your pro?s and cons. >>>> >>>> Yeah I?ve got msp from a windows mobile device that I gave up >>>> around a year ago. And now use talks on my n82. >>>> It?s a number of different things that I?m hesitating over, such >>>> as size and useability while on the go that are some of the things >>>> that are important. >>>> The n82 I can use on the go the IPhone I?m guessing I wont be >>>> able to. >>>> >>>> But still a few other thigns to think about before the buy or not! >>>> >>>> >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> ] On Behalf Of patrickneazer >>>> Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 10:34 p.m. >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility >>>> >>>> Hello Simon and all: >>>> >>>> One question you might want to consider is the issue of >>>> expandability. I am a user of a nokia 6650 with Mobile Speak and I >>>> love it. However, the number of applications that will work with it >>>> is not as robust as the Iphone. Second, while both my Mobile Speak >>>> and voiceover upgrades are free, the method of upgrading is quite >>>> different. I do not know about talks because I have never used it. >>>> However, if it is anything like Mobile Speak I cannot upgrade it >>>> independently. The only reason I make a point of this is the ability >>>> of being able to keep up with the latest updates to a system rather >>>> than being one step behind. Furthermore, does it make sense to have >>>> to pay a transfer cost if you either lose your phone or decide you >>>> want or need a new one. In the case of Mobile Speak, if you change >>>> phones for whatever reason there is a transfer cost. I do not know >>>> how it works with Talks. If I want another Iphone I just get another >>>> Iphone without incurring any additional costs for things beyond my >>>> control which may have resulted in the phone's loss or just for the >>>> freedom of wanting something different. >>>> >>>> There are a few more reasons I can mention though I will point out >>>> only one more ... with this arrangement of the Iphone and AT&T, the >>>> entire customer service flow is for the first time under one roof. >>>> If I have a problem with the Iphone I am able to take it to AT&T and >>>> they can be of assistance without necessarily farming it out to >>>> someone else and if they do farm it out to someone else ... that >>>> would be Apple and they would know that I am on the way (smile). >>>> With Mobile Speak it could be a mobile speak issue which I would >>>> have to go to Code Factory, it could be a phone problem where Nokia >>>> would have to be called in, it could be a billing problem where the >>>> Phone company would have to be tapped and, if I had a problem with >>>> the actual purchase of Mobile Speak and I did not purchase it from >>>> Code Factory I then would have to deal with AT&T's office of >>>> national disability concerns which is a completely separate >>>> operation from AT&T. I like the one umbrella that the Iphone has the >>>> potential to provide. I have both and love both and see the >>>> advantages to each. >>>> >>>> Just my two cents contributed to the discussion. No matter what your >>>> final conclusion, it will be a good one. >>>> >>>> Take good care. >>>> On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:35 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yeah, I had a sit down and play with the I phone for about an hour >>>> today and >>>> I gotta admit, the biggest problem is familiarity. >>>> I'm so use to the Nokia and talks interface that the IPhones system >>>> is not >>>> as efficient yet as I would have hoped. >>>> >>>> However I gotta admit that I am thinking of reasons why I shouldn't >>>> change >>>> to one at this point, and the only reason so far is that my n82 does >>>> everything that the iphone does and that I need it to. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kaare dehard >>>> Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:29 a.m. >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility >>>> >>>> >>>> Honestly given what I have heard/read, because this interface is so >>>> very different from what we have grown accustomed to, it's probably >>>> tough to get fixed on it right away. it's probably a let's forget >>>> about the old wisdom or at least set it aside while looking in to this >>>> and start from the ground. So, in a nutshell this is more like a slow >>>> growth to understanding product rather than something that can be >>>> quickly affixed. >>>> On 18-Jul-09, at 7:10 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi folks, >>>> >>>> Just wondering how many of you that are now using the Ipone 3gs, are >>>> totally blind rather than the partially / Visually impaired users. >>>> >>>> The device to me sounds more like it's for a VI person than a >>>> totally blind >>>> person. >>>> >>>> I'm total and I'm trying to compare this for useage / accessibility >>>> against >>>> my Nokia s60 device. >>>> And as I've only had a very quick play with the IPhone 3gs I can't >>>> say I'm >>>> fixed on it yet. >>>> And I'm keen to hear how the totally blind users are getting on with >>>> it. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Simonf. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Take good care and I wish you enough. >>>> >>>> Love >>>> >>>> Me >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Take good care and I wish you enough. >>>> >>>> Love >>>> >>>> Me >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en >>> -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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