I just ordered an IPhone 3gs and what decided me finally was hearing a
podcast about android accessibility on the Blindcooltech feed. The two
big advantages the IPhone 3gs has over Android and this is as of March 27,
2010 are that both email and browsing are accessible. Those two parts of
Android still aren't accessible. What blind people will get that buy
Android is the same accessibility that was available on the LG3600 phone
when that became available. But that's why me and verizon parted company
all those years ago and I'm still happy that split happened!On Tue, 21 Jul
2009, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:
It's quite possible to use the iPHone one handed. I do this frequently
while walking around. It's, of course, easier to use two hands when
you can, but that's true with any mobile phone. Anyway, there's no
problem using the iPhone one handed, and it isn't all that much
different from using any other phone that way. :)
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On Jul 21, 2009, at 2:03 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
Using it on the go I mean, while I?m walking around.
With the n82 and other nokia phones I can do this, either on a call
or typing / reading email or text messages, I can do this with one
hand, which I don?t think I could dowith the IPhone.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
] On Behalf Of patrickneazer
Sent: Tuesday, 21 July 2009 6:34 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Hello Simon and all:
I want to ask you what you mean by using it on the go. I am asking
because unless there is something I am missing ... and there may
be ... the iphone is quite usable. That does not mean you have to
use it ... it just means that your usability concerns may be
misplaced.
On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:13 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
Thanks yes I understand all your pro?s and cons.
Yeah I?ve got msp from a windows mobile device that I gave up
around a year ago. And now use talks on my n82.
It?s a number of different things that I?m hesitating over, such
as size and useability while on the go that are some of the things
that are important.
The n82 I can use on the go the IPhone I?m guessing I wont be
able to.
But still a few other thigns to think about before the buy or not!
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
] On Behalf Of patrickneazer
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 10:34 p.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Hello Simon and all:
One question you might want to consider is the issue of
expandability. I am a user of a nokia 6650 with Mobile Speak and I
love it. However, the number of applications that will work with it
is not as robust as the Iphone. Second, while both my Mobile Speak
and voiceover upgrades are free, the method of upgrading is quite
different. I do not know about talks because I have never used it.
However, if it is anything like Mobile Speak I cannot upgrade it
independently. The only reason I make a point of this is the ability
of being able to keep up with the latest updates to a system rather
than being one step behind. Furthermore, does it make sense to have
to pay a transfer cost if you either lose your phone or decide you
want or need a new one. In the case of Mobile Speak, if you change
phones for whatever reason there is a transfer cost. I do not know
how it works with Talks. If I want another Iphone I just get another
Iphone without incurring any additional costs for things beyond my
control which may have resulted in the phone's loss or just for the
freedom of wanting something different.
There are a few more reasons I can mention though I will point out
only one more ... with this arrangement of the Iphone and AT&T, the
entire customer service flow is for the first time under one roof.
If I have a problem with the Iphone I am able to take it to AT&T and
they can be of assistance without necessarily farming it out to
someone else and if they do farm it out to someone else ... that
would be Apple and they would know that I am on the way (smile).
With Mobile Speak it could be a mobile speak issue which I would
have to go to Code Factory, it could be a phone problem where Nokia
would have to be called in, it could be a billing problem where the
Phone company would have to be tapped and, if I had a problem with
the actual purchase of Mobile Speak and I did not purchase it from
Code Factory I then would have to deal with AT&T's office of
national disability concerns which is a completely separate
operation from AT&T. I like the one umbrella that the Iphone has the
potential to provide. I have both and love both and see the
advantages to each.
Just my two cents contributed to the discussion. No matter what your
final conclusion, it will be a good one.
Take good care.
On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:35 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
Yeah, I had a sit down and play with the I phone for about an hour
today and
I gotta admit, the biggest problem is familiarity.
I'm so use to the Nokia and talks interface that the IPhones system
is not
as efficient yet as I would have hoped.
However I gotta admit that I am thinking of reasons why I shouldn't
change
to one at this point, and the only reason so far is that my n82 does
everything that the iphone does and that I need it to.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kaare dehard
Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:29 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
Honestly given what I have heard/read, because this interface is so
very different from what we have grown accustomed to, it's probably
tough to get fixed on it right away. it's probably a let's forget
about the old wisdom or at least set it aside while looking in to this
and start from the ground. So, in a nutshell this is more like a slow
growth to understanding product rather than something that can be
quickly affixed.
On 18-Jul-09, at 7:10 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
Hi folks,
Just wondering how many of you that are now using the Ipone 3gs, are
totally blind rather than the partially / Visually impaired users.
The device to me sounds more like it's for a VI person than a
totally blind
person.
I'm total and I'm trying to compare this for useage / accessibility
against
my Nokia s60 device.
And as I've only had a very quick play with the IPhone 3gs I can't
say I'm
fixed on it yet.
And I'm keen to hear how the totally blind users are getting on with
it.
Cheers
Simonf.
Take good care and I wish you enough.
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