Hi, Whoa, I think someone needs to check their timezone and keyboard layouts. *smile* 18 Jul 2009?
Unless this is a very, very old thread. Well, I believe Talkback is also Open Source, actually. The learning curve for the iPhone is steep, but I hardly think you can actually give an opinion on the device before you have spent a little while testing it. The learning curve is more steep for others, of course, but I think it all comes down to thinking with an open mind. But I'm sure everyone has said this. It won't be like any other phone you've had. Regardless of how accustomed you have become with a key-like interface, even a keypad phone is different when you switch to another model. It'll act differently, in most instances, settings will be located elsewhere, and some things just won't work the same way. The iPhone is great, but it isn't the perfect device for everyone. IF you're really curious about the device, though, I'd read the manual. Go to the Apple store and try one out. And, if you have the opportunity, buy it and keep it for about ten days. You can return it, if possible, if you're dissatisfied. Some stores let you do this. That'll give you a much more accurate comparison. And, not to mention, you'll be able to say exactly why you don't like it and what you think could be improved. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Mar 28, 2010, at 1:50 PM, James & Nash wrote: > Hi Ricardo > >> Why get an iPhone now when a new one will become in out in like 3 months? > > Has the IPhone ben completely overhauled in v. 4.0? I was under the > impression that the model was the same, and that it was only the software > that is being upgraded. > > TC > James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny > On 28 Mar 2010, at 12:04, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Why get an iPhone now when a new one will become in out in like 3 months? >> On Mar 27, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: >> >>> I just ordered an IPhone 3gs and what decided me finally was hearing a >>> podcast about android accessibility on the Blindcooltech feed. The two big >>> advantages the IPhone 3gs has over Android and this is as of March 27, 2010 >>> are that both email and browsing are accessible. Those two parts of >>> Android still aren't accessible. What blind people will get that buy >>> Android is the same accessibility that was available on the LG3600 phone >>> when that became available. But that's why me and verizon parted company >>> all those years ago and I'm still happy that split happened!On Tue, 21 Jul >>> 2009, Josh de Lioncourt wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> It's quite possible to use the iPHone one handed. I do this frequently >>>> while walking around. It's, of course, easier to use two hands when >>>> you can, but that's true with any mobile phone. Anyway, there's no >>>> problem using the iPhone one handed, and it isn't all that much >>>> different from using any other phone that way. :) >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh de Lioncourt >>>> ?my other mail provider is an owl? >>>> >>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt >>>> Music: http://stage19music.com >>>> Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com >>>> Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com >>>> GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt >>>> >>>> On Jul 21, 2009, at 2:03 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>> >>>>> Using it on the go I mean, while I?m walking around. >>>>> >>>>> With the n82 and other nokia phones I can do this, either on a call >>>>> or typing / reading email or text messages, I can do this with one >>>>> hand, which I don?t think I could dowith the IPhone. >>>>> >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> ] On Behalf Of patrickneazer >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 21 July 2009 6:34 a.m. >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility >>>>> >>>>> Hello Simon and all: >>>>> >>>>> I want to ask you what you mean by using it on the go. I am asking >>>>> because unless there is something I am missing ... and there may >>>>> be ... the iphone is quite usable. That does not mean you have to >>>>> use it ... it just means that your usability concerns may be >>>>> misplaced. >>>>> On Jul 20, 2009, at 5:13 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks yes I understand all your pro?s and cons. >>>>> >>>>> Yeah I?ve got msp from a windows mobile device that I gave up >>>>> around a year ago. And now use talks on my n82. >>>>> It?s a number of different things that I?m hesitating over, such >>>>> as size and useability while on the go that are some of the things >>>>> that are important. >>>>> The n82 I can use on the go the IPhone I?m guessing I wont be >>>>> able to. >>>>> >>>>> But still a few other thigns to think about before the buy or not! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> ] On Behalf Of patrickneazer >>>>> Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 10:34 p.m. >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility >>>>> >>>>> Hello Simon and all: >>>>> >>>>> One question you might want to consider is the issue of >>>>> expandability. I am a user of a nokia 6650 with Mobile Speak and I >>>>> love it. However, the number of applications that will work with it >>>>> is not as robust as the Iphone. Second, while both my Mobile Speak >>>>> and voiceover upgrades are free, the method of upgrading is quite >>>>> different. I do not know about talks because I have never used it. >>>>> However, if it is anything like Mobile Speak I cannot upgrade it >>>>> independently. The only reason I make a point of this is the ability >>>>> of being able to keep up with the latest updates to a system rather >>>>> than being one step behind. Furthermore, does it make sense to have >>>>> to pay a transfer cost if you either lose your phone or decide you >>>>> want or need a new one. In the case of Mobile Speak, if you change >>>>> phones for whatever reason there is a transfer cost. I do not know >>>>> how it works with Talks. If I want another Iphone I just get another >>>>> Iphone without incurring any additional costs for things beyond my >>>>> control which may have resulted in the phone's loss or just for the >>>>> freedom of wanting something different. >>>>> >>>>> There are a few more reasons I can mention though I will point out >>>>> only one more ... with this arrangement of the Iphone and AT&T, the >>>>> entire customer service flow is for the first time under one roof. >>>>> If I have a problem with the Iphone I am able to take it to AT&T and >>>>> they can be of assistance without necessarily farming it out to >>>>> someone else and if they do farm it out to someone else ... that >>>>> would be Apple and they would know that I am on the way (smile). >>>>> With Mobile Speak it could be a mobile speak issue which I would >>>>> have to go to Code Factory, it could be a phone problem where Nokia >>>>> would have to be called in, it could be a billing problem where the >>>>> Phone company would have to be tapped and, if I had a problem with >>>>> the actual purchase of Mobile Speak and I did not purchase it from >>>>> Code Factory I then would have to deal with AT&T's office of >>>>> national disability concerns which is a completely separate >>>>> operation from AT&T. I like the one umbrella that the Iphone has the >>>>> potential to provide. I have both and love both and see the >>>>> advantages to each. >>>>> >>>>> Just my two cents contributed to the discussion. No matter what your >>>>> final conclusion, it will be a good one. >>>>> >>>>> Take good care. >>>>> On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:35 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, I had a sit down and play with the I phone for about an hour >>>>> today and >>>>> I gotta admit, the biggest problem is familiarity. >>>>> I'm so use to the Nokia and talks interface that the IPhones system >>>>> is not >>>>> as efficient yet as I would have hoped. >>>>> >>>>> However I gotta admit that I am thinking of reasons why I shouldn't >>>>> change >>>>> to one at this point, and the only reason so far is that my n82 does >>>>> everything that the iphone does and that I need it to. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kaare dehard >>>>> Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:29 a.m. >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Honestly given what I have heard/read, because this interface is so >>>>> very different from what we have grown accustomed to, it's probably >>>>> tough to get fixed on it right away. it's probably a let's forget >>>>> about the old wisdom or at least set it aside while looking in to this >>>>> and start from the ground. So, in a nutshell this is more like a slow >>>>> growth to understanding product rather than something that can be >>>>> quickly affixed. >>>>> On 18-Jul-09, at 7:10 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi folks, >>>>> >>>>> Just wondering how many of you that are now using the Ipone 3gs, are >>>>> totally blind rather than the partially / Visually impaired users. >>>>> >>>>> The device to me sounds more like it's for a VI person than a >>>>> totally blind >>>>> person. >>>>> >>>>> I'm total and I'm trying to compare this for useage / accessibility >>>>> against >>>>> my Nokia s60 device. >>>>> And as I've only had a very quick play with the IPhone 3gs I can't >>>>> say I'm >>>>> fixed on it yet. >>>>> And I'm keen to hear how the totally blind users are getting on with >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Simonf. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Take good care and I wish you enough. >>>>> >>>>> Love >>>>> >>>>> Me >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Take good care and I wish you enough. >>>>> >>>>> Love >>>>> >>>>> Me >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en >>>> -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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