Mark, I even got this to work on my iPhone. No more having to change outgoing send her a message. Love it. Thank you all so much for hanging in.
Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 25, 2019, at 7:16 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: > > That's great news, Kevin. And definitely something for all of us to remember. > > Mark > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 11:07 PM > To: MacVisionaries > Subject: Re: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail > address when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to > prevent this > > Guys, > > I don’t believe it. I think I’ve just fixed this. The problem was local, as > guys from rwp originally surmised. I went intoApple Mail/Preferences/E-mail > Accounts. I looked at my iCloud account and looked at mailbox behaviors. It > turned out that the address for that account was shown as kevj...@me.com. I > clicked on it and was able to change it to kevj...@icloud.com. > > As a test, I sent this note to the RWP list as a reply to an existing > message. I noticed that, as never before, replying to a message from > r...@groups.io now shows the sender address as kevj...@icloud.com and not > kevj...@me.com as before. when I hit Send, the message was sent and appeared > in my inbox because I receive all messages from this list. Problem solved! > > Thanks again for all the patience and help. I apologize for all the traffic > and clutter. > > Best, > Kevin > > On Tuesday, June 25, 2019 at 12:35:45 AM UTC-5, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > guys, > > > > > Guys, > > I’ve read Simon’s comments and everyone else and I need to say that I am > hopelessly confused. Let me restate the situation for those who joined late. > > > 1. a few years ago, I subscribed to a mailing list called Reapers Without > Peepers. It was hosted by a hosting service called bluegrasspals.com. So, > the message e-mail address was r...@bluegrasspals.com. At least I think > that’s it. I subscribed to this list using kevj...@me.com. I did this > because I wanted my e-mail from this list to be in a general mailbox apart > from my gmail mailbox that I use for business and general purpose > correspondence. > > 2. A few months back, this mailing list migrated from bluegrasspals.com to > groups.io. So, now the mailing address was r...@groups.io. I decided to > unsubscribe my me.com address and resubscribe to Reapers Without Peepers at > the Groups.io site using my iCloud.com address. This had been created when > me.com essentially “went away.” As a side note, I should say that my > me.com address continues to function in a few rare cases where it appears to > be grandfathered, somehow. But in the main, If accidentally send from > me.com, nobody sees what I send. > > 3. I soon discovered that, for reasons I never quite understood, I could > post to r...@groups.io using the iCloud.com address and the e-mail would > post. However, and this is the critical part, whenever anyone posted to the > list and I replied to that post, my default sender address would not, repeat > NOT be iCloud.com. It would be me.com. The only solution would be to always > be aware that all outgoing replies, as distinct from original posts, would be > sent via me.com, not iCloud.com. In such a case, it would be essential to > make sure act I had changed the sending e-mail address to iCloud from me. > > To the best of my knowledge, I have promoted my iCloud.com address to be the > primary address associated with my iPhone. I have removed me.com such that > it can’t be used to reach me on FaceTime or on my devices, so far as I know. > However, I can’t remove it from the list of outgoing e-mail addresses > available in Mac Mail, nor can I remove it from my iPhone because it’s an > Apple ID. When I turn that off on my iPhone 7, my entire iCloud mailbox > disappears from my iPhone. > > I can post an original message to RWP from iCloud.com and it will show up. > But every time I reply to a post, I have to be very careful to change the > sender address from me.com to iCloud.com and I need to add that’s really > ticking me off, to put it politely! If it is absolutely impossible to > eliminate the need to make this extra step when sending to this particular > mailing list, I guess I’ll just have to deal with it. I have years of > correspondence wit this list as either me.com or iCloud.com. That > correspondence is all in my iCloud inbox. I don’t want to unsubscribe and > resubscribe with my Gmail address because that would effect the purpose of > leaving my RWP e-mail in my iCloud mailbox going forward. > > Tim has graciously agreed to meet with me tomorrow. I’m hoping he has Team > Viewer or some other means of remoting into my Mac mini. I suppose I could > dial into iCloud using my DAW, a Windows 10 machine with Team Viewer, if that > would be of any help. I don’t have Team Viewer or any other similar software > on my Mac mini and I guess we’ll have to talk about that. I think it would > be best if he could see my iCloud screens to have the greatest possible > appreciation of my exact situation with e-mail addresses, aliases, and the > like. > > I think I’ve explained everything of consequence. > > Is there anyway to expunge me.com from the list of outgoing e-mail addresses > in Mac Mail? There is no me.com account in either preferences or internet > accounts. Is there a server I should hose? > > I look forward to any available resolution. > > Thanks, > Kevin > I need to say that I am now h > > On Monday, June 24, 2019 at 11:46:02 PM UTC-5, Simon Fogarty wrote: > HI Mark, > > Kevin doesn’t' want to change his apple id but move them so the icloud > address is the primary in his mail account, > And the me.comm becomes his alias > The apple id should't be changed, > My apple id's are all alias addresses to my primary mail box. > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisi...@googlegroups.com <macvisi...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > M. Taylor > Sent: Tuesday, 25 June 2019 3:37 PM > To: macvisi...@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail > address when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to > prevent this > > Hello Tim, > > Thank you for the follow up. > > Yes, I see the problem with my suggestion. > > Based on my understanding, Apple states that an Apple ID cannot be changed if > the ID is an @me.com, @Mac.com or @iCloud.com address. > > Were Kevin's primary email address a third-party email, then he could, > indeed, promote and @me, @Mac, or @iCloud alias to become his new Apple ID. > However, once having done that, he would not be able to change that ID, > again. The point is that once any Apple-owned domain email is set as an > Apple ID, that's it. > > Actually, now that I think about it; I have done this, myself. This is to > say, I removed an alias from one of my Apple accounts and in less than a > minute, I was able to use it as an Apple ID. > > So, assuming this is still the case, Cannot Kevin separate the alias from his > old Apple ID and then, simply merge the two IDs into one? I know that Apple > does allow this. I believe that this would preserve his purchase history, > etc. > > Mark > > From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries [mailto:macvisi...@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 8:18 PM > To: macvisi...@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail > address when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to > prevent this > > Hi mark, > > At the moment, his primary eMail address for the Apple ID is the older me.com > address with the iCloud being an alias of the older original address. Yes, > one could delete the alias and create a separate Apple ID for this, but that > does two negative things. First, if any purchases are connected to the > origianal Apple ID, they would no longer be associated with the iCloud > address which is the one he now uses. Second, I believe that the iCloud > alias address would be reserved for a period of time even though it has been > deleted, thus making it unusable until it is released for use. Sorry, I did > send the primary instructions to Kevin off-list already, although he told me > that it didn't work for him. Essentially, what I suggested was to promote > the iCloud address to be the primary Apple ID instead of the older me.com > address. This should make it so that the outgoing messages are definitely > coming from the iCloud address. > > Apple outlines the process here. > > After this has been done, I believe that the problem should be solved. > Although, Kevin mentioned that he was unsuccessful. We will be connecting in > a more direct way hopefully tomorrow to see where the problem lies. This > process is sound and should work and after 30 days or so, he should be able > to delete the older me.com address. It will likely remain unable to be > deleted initially as it takes a bit to release the primary address as far as > I'm aware. > > HTH. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Jamf Certified Associate > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Jun 24, 2019, at 20:38, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: > > Hello Kevin and Tim, > > Unless list members have some kind of objection, I would ask that this thread > remain, on-list, as I would like to learn of Tim's solution to this problem. > > Tim, as I see it, cannot Kevin simply remove his iCloud alias from his > @me.com Apple ID and turn it into its own, independent, Apple ID? > > Mark > > > From: macvisi...@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisi...@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 9:07 AM > To: MacVisionaries > Subject: Re: Apple mail insists upon replying from a dead me.com e-mail > address when the original e-mail came to my iCloud.com address. Can't seem to > prevent this > > Tim, > YOu've got it exactly. If you can lend a hand, please let me know best way > to contact you privately. You can keep the thread here if you like. > > thanks in advance, > Kevin > > On Sunday, June 23, 2019 at 5:37:23 PM UTC-5, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > Guys, > > Many years ago, I subscribed to a Reaper mailing list using my kev...@me.com > address. This address is now long dead. I have since unsubscribed and > resubscribed to this mailing list using kevj...@icloud.com. However, even > though my e-mails from this list come to my iCloud address, hitting reply > automatically populates the sending address as kev...@me.com. If I don’t > happen to remember to click on the outgoing address and change it to > kevj...@icloud.com, the mail will be sent to nowhere and it will take a few > days for me to realize that the reason I haven’t heard from whatever I asked > about is because nobody saw what I wrote. > > I have tried my best to make sure that kev...@me.com is toast. It is no > longer present as a sender’s e-mail address. But it remains as an option in > the list of e-mail addresses I can choose when sending e-mails. In fact, if > I am currently highlighting an e-mail that came to my iCloud account, > initiating a blank e-mail appears to populate the From field with > kev...@me.com, regardless of what e-mail address I actually want in the From > field. I can’t remove this me.com address as an option in the From field no > matter what I do. 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