Hi, I mean Firefox. Oops.
Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Feb 12, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > I wish I could redefine default keyboard commands. Like VO-Backslash. > Impossible to do on a Danish keyboard, as you need Option for backslash. Oh, > and I wish my bank site was accessible. It is on Windows for the most part, > but VO doesn't like it and the site recommends that I use Safari. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Feb 12, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> See you learn something new every day, even this old grumpy man. Have to >> redefine keyboard shortcuts though, i can't use existing ones due to the >> keyboard layout of a swedish keyboard. This isn't VOs fault though. >> /Krister >> >> >> 12 feb 2010 kl. 12.00 skrev Scott Howell: >> >>> I would also point out that if you use the Web Spot feature, it is quite >>> accurate indeed. I have a sweet spot set for a number of locations on the >>> banking website I use and it surely is the greatest thing for making >>> navigation of a site efficient. I have it setup so as soon as the page >>> loads, I'm on the location to enter my login info. Once I'm logged in, I am >>> immediately on the list of accounts and on the balance information. If >>> folks have not really explored the possibilities of Web/sweet spots, do >>> yourself a favor and give them a try, they are very useful. >>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:32 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> If I may, I would like to point out that all navigation through elements >>>> on a web page can be done with one hand and you don't need to remember a >>>> lot of keys. When in dom. mode, press the left and right arrows at the >>>> same time to enter quick nav mode. Now, press the left-up or right-up to >>>> cycle through the navigation items in the roter. Then, navigate through >>>> the chosen element with the up or down keys. >>>> >>>> As far as returning to the prior place in a web page, I have not found it >>>> to be non existent. There are many times that it works, although, I would >>>> like to see it work more consistently. I haven't found any screen reader >>>> do it very well. >>>> >>>> I would also like to say that I never found any of the vo key strokes to >>>> be difficult and I never understood why some people seemed to have such a >>>> hang-up with them. There are some circumstances where one might need to >>>> perform a task with only one hand, and I think that it was some what of a >>>> legitimate concern earlier on. As I pointed out however, that issue has >>>> been addressed with quick nav. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Scott, >>>>> I'm not Linda, but I had to respond to your note to her re the >>>>> differences between moving around on a page among elements with Window >>>>> Eyes or Jaws and Voice Over. You said that you didn't see much difference >>>>> between pressing h by itself or pressing 3 additional keys in addition to >>>>> h to move among headers. And you say this is easily done with one hand? >>>>> You must have amazing hands. I can no way do that. I've been touch typing >>>>> for decades. It gets even more interesting when you add the shift into >>>>> the mix to go up the page in reverse order. Doable? yes? As easy as >>>>> pressing one key? Not by a long shot. Are there other benefits, such as >>>>> not having to go in and out of forms mode? for sure. The added >>>>> functionality for VO on the web in Snow Leopard is one of the main >>>>> reasons I decided to try a Mac. I really appreciate the numpad commander, >>>>> although learning it was not as intuitive as learning mnemonics on the >>>>> regular keyboard. In no way is the rotor as efficient for me as having >>>>> that array of single letter keystrokes that let me move among various web >>>>> elements at will. Another thing I hope can be implemented in the future >>>>> is a means of letting focus return to where it was when you return back >>>>> to a previously visited page. That's a big time saver with the Windows >>>>> screen readers, although it doesn't always work. Its nonexistent with >>>>> vo. I like the fact that pages seem to load faster with Safari than they >>>>> do with IE and a screen reader. Over all, for me, the Windows experience >>>>> is still more efficient. But there are pluses with the Mac, and I'm >>>>> hoping it will keep improving. Group mode is something I have tried and >>>>> dropped. I just never found a page where it seemed to offer any >>>>> advantage, since I don't really care how the page is laid out. I want >>>>> info and where it is on the page just doesn't seem very important to me, >>>>> so long as I can get to it efficiently. Maybe I don't go to the right >>>>> sites where group mode's benefits are displayed to best advantage. >>>>> >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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