Yes, this is one of the reasons I decided to upgrade to the latest Windows machine rather than a new Mac.
However, my primary reason is: Apple refuses to upgrade the Mac to touchscreen, and Windows Narrator is now quite useable. It is the only screen reader I am currently using on my new machine. All that said, my primary devices are my iPhone X and my iPad Pro 10.5. And, I will most likely switch back to Mac if Apple ever makes it a touchscreen device. Oh, and no busy busy problems on my iOS devices. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +61 488 988 936 Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Aug 2018, at 23:11, Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It happens with Google Chrome as well, and it freezes completely and does not > allow me to do a thing, no matter what I press. It’ll say “VoiceOver off,” > but not “VoiceOver on,” and it will be silent for a long time, or say “busy,” > no matter what I press, though I can almost always get out and can do > something with another application. But as soon as I go back to the web, it > freezes until it is good and ready. Sometimes, this will happen in Mail: > busy, freeze, click, and “VoiceOver on”. > >> On Aug 14, 2018, at 1:18 AM, 'Marshall Scott' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >> Try navigating up from the bottom of the page or searching for something >> specific in the web page. Also try using Google Chrome rather than Safari. >> Marshall >> >> >>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 5:45 PM, Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Could you be more specific about “navigating around the problem area”? >>>> Everything freezes, and I have to wait for a few seconds up to a couple of >>>> minutes before I hear a click and “VoiceOver on,” . . . and then if I >>>> attempt again the task I was attempting, again, and again, and again, ad >>>> nauseam. >>> >>>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 5:49 PM, 'Marshall Scott' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> The only thing I can suggest is to try to navigate around the problem >>>> area. I realize this isn't of much help. The only other thing I can >>>> think of is for everyone who has this issue to call Apple Accessibility >>>> every time it happens. Unfortunately, this might have undesirable >>>> consequences in terms of support. >>>> Marshall >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 13, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have tried everything: cleaning out unnecessary files, doing a disk >>>>> utility first aid check, PRAM and SMC, numerous reboots: no matter what >>>>> web browser I use, no matter how close to my router I am, no matter what >>>>> I do, whenever I perform searches, try to fill anything out, read through >>>>> headings or other information, busy becomes a monster and is costing >>>>> literally taking hours out of my days to complete the simplest tasks to >>>>> more involved ones. >>>>> Is there a darn thing I can do, and/or is there something visiting the >>>>> Genius Bar might accomplish? >>>>> Christine >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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