Consider as well the problem for those who do not read English.
They are a mess for many, hands down.
On Sat, 12 May 2018, Eric Oyen wrote:
> hey E.T.,
> Captcha is a big problem for far more than just us blind folks (although
> we probably notice it far more and far faster). There are some who have
> other print related disabilities that would make Captcha solving a
> nightmare. There are also those who are colorblind (both the red-green
> and the far rarer monochromatic type) and some of the images would not
> make any sense.
>
> Now, I had a very big problem with dyslexia before I became blind and I
> know for certain that it would have caused me no end of trouble
> (squiggly lines in among other squiggly lines supposedly mimicking
> letters would be highly confusing). So, this problem is not strictly
> one that exclusively targets the blind. Like I said upstairs, we just
> notice it a lot faster.
>
> -eric
>
> PGP fingerprint: 6DFB D6B0 3771 90F1 373E 570C 7EA2 1FF3 6B68 0386
>
> On May 12, 2018, at 4:35 PM, E.T. wrote:
>
> > Whups. (smiles) Let's get back on track here, Karen. Let's take a
> > more practical approach to this issue as blind/visually impaired
> > users. Like Captcha Be Gone, or Rumola. If I am not mistaken, neither
> > of these will handle what I believe are known as re-Captcha. Are you
> > aware of any blind friendly solutions?
> >
> > From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> > ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> > Many believe that we have been visited
> > in the past. What if it were true?
> >
> > On 5/12/2018 3:21 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > Mr. Cohn,
> > > may I ask what makes you an expert on my computing, to the point
> > > that you would call me out in this thread?
> > > I make my living professionally using computers as a part of my
> > > work.
> > > I have no issues getting the job done, but this is how I compute
> > > rooted in many factors.
> > > If I do not suggest everyone should use computers as I do, why do
> > > you feel justified in judging how I use them, never having met me,
> > > not paying my salary, nor last time I checked living my physical
> > > experience?
> > > > > On May 12, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Jonathan Cohn
> > > > > <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Google authenticator right now is the checkbox labeled I am
> > > > > not a bot. I have had luck with JAWS and NVDA and VoiceOver with
> > > > > these not proceeding to the more traditional puzzles. I
> > > > > believe that Karen uses a browser with no ability to work with
> > > > > JavaScript, so I am surprised that she would be able to do most
> > > > > activities on modern websites that use extensive CSS and
> > > > > JavaScript to allow less transfer of information between
> > > > > computers and systems. If you want to be fully safe at ensuring
> > > > > access to all, then you will need a helpdesk service with the
> > > > > ability to disable authenticators on a per account basis
> > > > > (perhaps with a USB dongle with a security certificate). In
> > > > > general security / privacy tools don't trust the services needed
> > > > > by accessibility. For example, the new Firefox versions have a
> > > > > logo to indicate when accessibility services are enabled with
> > > > > instructions that say if you are not using a screen reader or
> > > > > other accessibility application and you see this logo you might
> > > > > have an application that is a security risk.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jonathan Cohn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On May 11, 2018, at 9:42 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've been playing email tag with someone who operates a web
> > > > > > site that uses the picture captcha for people who sign up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We talked about the 2-step verification method where one
> > > > > > gets a code via text message. He is of the opinion that this
> > > > > > isn prone to hacks. He chose to use the picture captcha after
> > > > > > his site was overwhelmed with bots that created thousands of
> > > > > > fake accounts. He also mentioned Google Authenticator and
> > > > > > Authy. Anyone have experience with those?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Of late I have seen less of the captchas that uses letters
> > > > > > and numbers and more of the picture captchas. I see the 2-step
> > > > > > verification still but not as often. Due ti hearing, I've
> > > > > > never tried the audio challenges but understand they are no
> > > > > > better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't know where this trend will take us but no doubt it
> > > > > > will go away. What do you all see coming in the future? I am
> > > > > > most interested in the accessibility angle.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> > > > > > ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> > > > > > Many believe that we have been visited
> > > > > > in the past. What if it were true?
> > > > > >
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