I am not the person to ask, first because I do not share your seaming
suggestion that there is a uniform solution for a uniform interchangeable
group known as blind/ vision impaired. Speaking *only* for myself, I
rarely encounter situations where there is not a alternative to the
captcha avenue.
Further again from my * own* perspective, the more energy directed
towards illustrating why Captcha is a challenge across the board, with
questionable security protections, according to some research, the better.
but that is me.
I am not you so would not make suggestions for your computer needs based
on my personal experiences.
On Sat, 12 May 2018, E.T. wrote:
> Mine. I am blind/visually impaired. As such, I need a real solution,
> mot a ton of articles. An all-inclusive approach is a noble concept but
> does not provide immediate solutions.
>
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
>
> On 5/12/2018 4:50 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > Blind according to whose definition?
> > The reason why I referred you to w3c.wai is so you can find that
> > captcha
> > is a problem for everyone.
> > Articles like the below.
> > CAPTCHA: Inaccessible to Everyone:
> > http://www.sitepoint.com/captcha-inaccessible-to-everyone/
> > CAPTCHA: How to do it right (ie. don't use CAPTCHA!):
> > http://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140831232143-25659818-
> > captcha-how-to-do-it-right-ie-don-t-use-captcha
> > I especially like the research where they hacked recaptch over and
> > over
> > again.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 12 May 2018, E.T. wrote:
> >
> > > Whups. (smiles) Let's get back on track here, Karen. Let's take
> > a > more practical approach to this issue as blind/visually impaired
> > users. > Like Captcha Be Gone, or Rumola. If I am not mistaken,
> > neither of these > will handle what I believe are known as
> > re-Captcha. Are you aware of any > blind friendly solutions?
> > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> > > ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> > > Many believe that we have been visited
> > > in the past. What if it were true?
> > > > On 5/12/2018 3:21 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> > > > Mr. Cohn,
> > > > may I ask what makes you an expert on my computing, to the
> > point > > that you
> > > > would call me out in this thread?
> > > > I make my living professionally using computers as a part of
> > my > > work.
> > > > I have no issues getting the job done, but this is how I
> > compute > > rooted in
> > > > many factors.
> > > > If I do not suggest everyone should use computers as I do, why
> > do > > you feel
> > > > justified in judging how I use them, never having met me, not
> > paying > > my
> > > > salary, nor last time I checked living my physical experience?
> > > > > > > > > > > > On May 12, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Jonathan Cohn > >
> > <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > The Google authenticator right now is the checkbox
> > labeled I > > am not a > > bot. I have had luck with JAWS and NVDA
> > and VoiceOver > > with these not > > proceeding to the more
> > traditional puzzles. I > > believe that Karen > > uses a browser
> > with no ability to work with > > JavaScript, so I am > > surprised
> > that she would be able to do most > > activities on modern > >
> > websites that use extensive CSS and > > JavaScript to allow less
> > transfer > > of information between > > computers and systems. If
> > you want to be fully > > safe at ensuring > > access to all, then
> > you will need a helpdesk service > > with the > > ability to
> > disable authenticators on a per account basis > > (perhaps > >
> > with a USB dongle with a security certificate). In general > > > >
> > security / privacy tools don't trust the services needed by > > > >
> > accessibility. For example, the new Firefox versions have a logo to >
> > > > > indicate when accessibility services are enabled with
> > instructions > > > > that say if you are not using a screen reader
> > or other > > accessibility > > application and you see this logo
> > you might have > > an application that > > is a security risk.
> > > > > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > > > > > Jonathan Cohn
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 2018, at 9:42 PM, E.T. > >
> > <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > I've been playing email tag with someone who
> > operates > > a web site > > > that uses the picture captcha for
> > people who sign > > up.
> > > > > > > > > > We talked about the 2-step verification method
> > where > > one gets a > > > code via text message. He is of the
> > opinion that > > this isn prone to > > > hacks. He chose to use
> > the picture captcha > > after his site was > > > overwhelmed with
> > bots that created > > thousands of fake accounts. He > > > also
> > mentioned Google > > Authenticator and Authy. Anyone have > > >
> > experience with those?
> > > > > > > > > > Of late I have seen less of the captchas that
> > uses > > letters and > > > numbers and more of the picture
> > captchas. I see > > the 2-step > > > verification still but not as
> > often. Due ti > > hearing, I've never > > > tried the audio
> > challenges but understand > > they are no better.
> > > > > > > > > > I don't know where this trend will take us but
> > > > > > > > > > no
> > > > doubt it will > > > go away. What do you all see coming in the
> > > > future? I am most > > > interested in the accessibility angle.
> > > > > > > > > > From E.T.'s Keyboard...
> > > > > > > ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> > > > > > > Many believe that we have been visited
> > > > > > > in the past. What if it were true?
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