Hi,

A couple of things to consider.  We often look at the world from our own 
prospective, and forget that there are numerous other scenarios.

1.  Cell signals and Internet access in the US and many other countries is 
quite common and fairly robust, especially in larger centres.  consider though 
rural and more remote locales though.  On the 5 hour drive from Fort McMurray 
to the nearest city, we encounter numerous dead zones.  The towns, if you can 
call them that, do have Internet, but nothing like the cities.  Many of the 
farmers still need to use dial up or cell data plans to have Internet access, 
if they can even get a quality cell signal.  There are many countries or areas 
around the world that have a much different Internet infrastructure than what 
many of us are accustomed to.

2.  Internet data charges vary considerably from country to country making it 
important to think economically with respect to data use.  Connecting to your 
computer therefore saves both data usage and money when transferring between 
devices.  Yes, there are WiFi solutions of transferring between devices, but 
they tend to be less reliable than the USB wired solutions at this point.

3.  Transferring large files like HD movies is considerably faster through USB 
than it is over the air, so time considerations are also a factor.

I'm mostly just saying that we need to consider outside our own bubble, the 
world is a different beast.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 7, 2016, at 20:46, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not really, the cloud design at Apple is quite sound.

The only time I use the backup feature and hard wire is for an encrypted backup 
if I’m going to erase the phone which I haven’t had to do for years.  Also the 
first time configuration for enabling WiFi sync.  Other than that absolutely 
100% cloud based.

> On Nov 7, 2016, at 6:22 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>  What is a cloud but vapor anyway? Given the right conditions, that can 
> translate to Poof!
> 
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> On 11/7/2016 3:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> Again, I know there are those times like you say, an incrypted backup,
>> etc. when USB would be necessary. I wasn't saying throw the baby totally
>> out with the bathwater. I more just meant is it something where most
>> things, you really don't need to plug it in via USB anymore.
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>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   *From:* michael babcock <mailto:michael.babcoc...@gmail.com>
>>   *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>   <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>   *Sent:* Monday, November 07, 2016 6:14 PM
>>   *Subject:* Re: Here's an interesting question for all iOS users
>> 
>>   Secure encrypted backups
>>   e.g. if you don’t want to have to enter your passwords into apps again.
>>   correct me if i’m wrong, however iCloud backups aren’t keeping all
>>   passwords where as a local backup can.
>>   also, what happens if iCloud was hacked, or unavailable, or is
>>   something apple wanted to shut down.
>>   :)
>>   I personally keep local copies  of my backups just in case.
>>   once per week.
>>   hth
>> 
>>>   On Nov 7, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
>>>   <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Let me start by saying two things:
>>> 
>>>   1. I realize entirely that my question is very subjective.
>>> 
>>>   2. I further understand that there really is no right or wrong
>>>   answer to this. I'm asking more just out of curiosity.
>>> 
>>>   So, here tgos.
>>> 
>>>   So... now adays with so much stuff regarding Apple happening in
>>>   the cloud, I often ask myself: is there really much reason now
>>>   adays to sync your iOS device with ITunes on the mac? How many of
>>>   you really don't connect your phone to the mac unless it's
>>>   absolutely necessary?
>>> 
>>>   I mean, think about it like this. You get a wallblock charger with
>>>   all new iPhones, (key word, new,) as well as iPads. OK, for iPods,
>>>   I could see it, as I don't think, unless things have changed which
>>>   is highly probabal, they came with the apple block transformer.
>>>   But either way, there really isn't much need anymore with Apple
>>>   Music to sync music across your device, as music can automatically
>>>   come down to your device anyway over the ICloud Music library, and
>>>   even if you don't! have Apple Music, you still have the ICloud
>>>   music library, so if it's something where you rip a CD we'll just
>>>   say, it would still upload it to your library, provided you have
>>>   things set correctly, thereby making it appear on your iOS device.
>>> 
>>>   You really don't need to use ITunes to sync photos and videos
>>>   anymore, as you have the iCloud photo library. All purchased and
>>>   rented movies as well as TV shows are in the cloud, same goes with
>>>   books from IBooks.
>>> 
>>>   You can do iOS updates usually over the air, (OTA,) so there
>>>   really isn't a need to do them from ITunes.
>>> 
>>>   OK, I get that there are those few instances like putting the
>>>   device into DFU mode and installing betas, or downgrading from
>>>   betas. I also get that sometimes, you may want to download the
>>>   whole iOS OS and restore. I also get you may want to make
>>>   occasional backups locally to ITunes. But even that! you can do
>>>   ICloud backups. I mean, pretty much everything is going to the cloud.
>>> 
>>>   You even now can set it so that if you download an app or
>>>   song/album from the ITunes store on the mac, it'll automatically
>>>   download to your device seemlessly.
>>> 
>>>   I won't go into the details, but a friend of mine is having an
>>>   issue where things are downloading to his device automatically
>>>   that he didn't suspect would automatically download. Through
>>>   talking to him, it's just kind a got me thinking a bit on a
>>>   totally unrelated note how necessary this really is. I mean, for
>>>   the most part, do you really have to use USB aside from those very
>>>   rare occasions, or would I be doing myself a favor to free up that
>>>   USB port for something more valuable like a flash drive, or even
>>>   better, maybe my braille display, etc.
>>> 
>>>   Chris.
>>> 
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