I hear that Phil. That’s one reason we need a more consistent way of self voting. After all it’s the actual corner stone of our democracy and we blind need direct access to it.
> On Nov 5, 2016, at 9:42 AM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Scott, I usually tend to vote for, "none of your damn business". It's the > American way. 😊 > > Sent from my IPhone > > >> On Nov 5, 2016, at 5:20 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: >> >> SO who do you vote for when your choices are both untrustworthy lying scum >> are teere other unknown of parties that can be voted for?from the outside >> Hillary is the better of the 2 evils but even so I don't think she's the >> right person as for Donny >> His womanising sexist attitude and general racest ignorance makes me want to >> shoot myself. >> >> And I don’t even live in that country but he's a bad representation of the >> male species if he is actually a male! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Halton >> Sent: Saturday, 5 November 2016 11:33 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular? >> >> I get cited assistance from a poll worker. They take my ballot, read it to >> me, and Mark my selections for me, and then insert the ballot into the >> reading machine for me. I think of it as the same kind of relationship as >> that between priest and penitent. They don't judge me for my choices and I >> have complete faith that they are marking the selections I tell them. >> Sometimes just got to go on faith and don't be embarrassed to let another >> person know what you thinking. >> >> Sent from my IPhone >> >> >>> On Nov 4, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> Those of you who vote, do you get templates on your ballot paper in a >>> braille format? Of course you can only have one of those if you go to a >>> local polling station. How do blind people vote in America if they have no >>> useful vision? May be you can reply to me off list so as not to jamb >>> people's inboxes as it's nothing to do with Macs etc. This is for my >>> knowledge. >>> >>> Thanks for any replies. >>> >>> Kawal. >>>> On 4 Nov 2016, at 17:29, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> We don’t get election day as a holiday, things are pretty much open. >>>> Sometimes they close the schools because they may use schools as polling >>>> places but that’s not a universal thing. >>>> >>>>> On Nov 4, 2016, at 3:05 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> O, Ok, >>>>> You guys get all kinds of crazy holidays. >>>>> >>>>> Waw really a holiday for electing a muppet in to a position of power? >>>>> >>>>> It really doesn't matter which one wins, the worlds in danger >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. >>>>> Sent: Friday, 4 November 2016 3:16 AM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular? >>>>> >>>>> Yes a big one, next Tuesday, when we celebrate the end of a crazy >>>>> insane political campaign that dragged on far too long. (rolls eyes) >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> Without H2O there is no life! >>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>>> On 11/3/2016 1:48 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>>>> Hi Mark, >>>>>> >>>>>> Could you clarify for me please? >>>>>> >>>>>> What holiday season is it you are referring to? >>>>>> >>>>>> Does America have big holidays coming up for some reason? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Simon F >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2016 7:52 AM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: MODERATOR NOTE: RE: Wifi VS. Cellular? >>>>>> Importance: High >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello All, >>>>>> >>>>>> It's been a while since last I posted as a moderator. This is because >>>>>> as responsible men and women, I trust that everyone in this community >>>>>> will conduct themselves in a gracious and kind manner. >>>>>> >>>>>> Having said this, in light of the post, upon which I am commenting, I >>>>>> say the following: >>>>>> >>>>>> Scott, (and everyone, for that matter), name calling is unacceptable and >>>>>> inexcusable in this community and it simply will not be tolerated. >>>>>> >>>>>> In my world, this sentiment is clear but just in case you live in a >>>>>> different world, this means that should anyone persists with this kind >>>>>> of behavior, they will be banned from the list. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will post this in a completely separate thread, also, just so everyone >>>>>> will see it. >>>>>> >>>>>> To end on a positive note, I wish you all the best holiday season, ever. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark >>>>>> >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott >>>>>> Granados >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 9:41 AM >>>>>> To: MacVisionaries 'Chris Blouch' via >>>>>> Subject: Re: Wifi VS. Cellular? >>>>>> >>>>>> It’s to bad you’re both wrong and Chris asked the question because this >>>>>> is right in my area but since he blocks me and since he’s such an ass to >>>>>> everybody I guess the wrong information will have to be out there. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone who wishes the correct answer including you Ray please contact me >>>>>> off list. Aside from Chris of course. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 2, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Seems to me you might try it this way. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have cellular service turned off for any apps, those apps WILL, >>>>>> NOT, be able to use data if you go outside of Wifi range. IF you turn >>>>>> cellular off all together, and have only Wifi calling inabled, you WILL, >>>>>> NOT, be able to make or receive calls unless you are in range of your >>>>>> WIFI network. Can’t see what’s so hard to understand about that myself. >>>>>> Seems very basic to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the >>>>>> blind built-in >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, >>>>>> >>>>>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless >>>>>> iPhone7+ and Apple TV user! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 2, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Guys, >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know how to better explain this, and honestly, I'm getting a bit >>>>>> agrevated trying to do so. Maybe one of you can chime in and help me out. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a friend who is on this list. I'm not going to reveal which >>>>>> member it is, as I don't wish to put anyone here on the spot. I'm not >>>>>> even going to reveal their gender. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, he/she has just recently obtained an iPhone. They are incredibly >>>>>> new to the iPhone world. In fact, they are new to the smart phone world >>>>>> in general. >>>>>> >>>>>> When they go into settings, Cellular, they see things using data like >>>>>> Apple Music, YOutube, etc. I tried to explain to them that yes, those >>>>>> things are turned on, as they are set to where cellular data is allowed >>>>>> to be used with the apps. >>>>>> >>>>>> I told them that if they either turn off any of those apps, or for that >>>>>> mind, do what they wanna do by totally turning cellular off completely, >>>>>> that's not a very wise idea in most cases. I tried explaining that when >>>>>> cellular is off, then nothing will work if they're on the Verizon >>>>>> cellular 4G/LTE network. The only time they'd have data internet >>>>>> connectivity would be if they were on a wifi network. Obviously, they >>>>>> don't believe me, or don't understand, one of the two. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know how to explain this any easier. I told them that all >>>>>> they're doing by disabling those apps under there like Apple Music, etc. >>>>>> is, they're not disabling the apps from currently! using data. All >>>>>> they're doing is disabling the apps so they never! will use cellular. >>>>>> >>>>>> The example I gave them was, if they turn off Apple Music, then any time >>>>>> they move out of range of their wifi, they won't be able to use Apple >>>>>> Music, as they've disabled it from being able to be used with Cellular. >>>>>> >>>>>> I told them, if they turn off cellular entirely, then they won't be able >>>>>> to receive phone calls nor make calls, etc. unless they are on a wifi >>>>>> network, as they do have wifi calling enabled. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of corse, if they're on wifi, then their internet would also work >>>>>> regardless, but as soon as they move away from the wifi range, their >>>>>> internet would go kaput and so would their incoming and outgoing calls. >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried explaining that by it saying those apps use cellular data, that >>>>>> doesn't mean they're necessarily using their 6 gigs of data right then >>>>>> and there. The only time that happens is if they're not on a wifi >>>>>> network, at which point, it falls back to their LTE cellular data. As >>>>>> long as they are on a wifi network, it would not use their 6GB data >>>>>> plan. >>>>>> >>>>>> Again, I'm not gonna reveal who it is, but they are on this list, and >>>>>> they definitely do check their mail from this list on a regular basis, >>>>>> so if you respond, I know they'll see it, beyond a doubt. >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps one of you all who're a little more patient today can explain >>>>>> this. >>>>>> >>>>>> They told me that they called Verizon, and Verizon is telling them to >>>>>> always leave cellular completely turned off regardless if they are on >>>>>> wifi or not. I find that extremely perplexing, as why the hell would you >>>>>> want your cellular to always be off. O, Kayyy. I know places where yes, >>>>>> you may want it off, but not 100% of the time. Come on! Really? >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't doubt what they're telling me Verizon said to them, and >>>>>> honestly, it doesn't exactly surprise me that a rep would a told them >>>>>> this, but I will leavbe my personal opinions out, and spare you all. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, how else do I explain how that cellualr screen works, and what >>>>>> it does? >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, they're wonderring in that screen at the veryh bottom what wifi >>>>>> assist is. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wish they'd leave that stuff back their alone, as I know what's >>>>>> probably gonna happen. They're gonna start turning stuff on/off then >>>>>> will dm me on Twitter and be like, Chris, why is X, y, and Z not >>>>>> working? Then, I'm gonna be lost, as I don't know what they shut on and >>>>>> off. >>>>>> >>>>>> I keep telling them, if it isn't broken, don't try fixing it, but, they >>>>>> wanna obviously be adventurous, which is fine, to a point, but why ask >>>>>> me what something does, if you're only then gonna turn around and say, >>>>>> well, not according to what x person/persons tell/tells me. >>>>>> >>>>>> I mean, Gawod! Why're you asking me my opinion if you're then gonna say, >>>>>> not true from what I hear. They tell me they believe me, but, if they >>>>>> do, then why do they contradict every blessid thing I say? I don't clame >>>>>> to know everything, no, and I have no issues with getting 2nd opinions, >>>>>> but that's really rude when asked for help, I provide, then you turn >>>>>> around in my face and say well, that's not true according to whoever >>>>>> intity. If you think what I'm saying isn't gonna be true, then why're >>>>>> you asking me to start with! >>>>>> >>>>>> OK, rant over. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone know how better to explain this screen, and maybe why >>>>>> ideally, you'd want to leave cellular on? Does anyone know further how >>>>>> to convince this person that as long as they're on a wifi network, that >>>>>> they're not eating up their 6GB data? I'm! obviously not gonna convince >>>>>> them, and frankly, I'm tired of trying to do so, with all due respect to >>>>>> them. Smile. >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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