Joseph, can I have your number please off list?

I have a few quick questions. I don't have long, but I need some clarification.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joseph Hudson 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 1:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Wifi VS. Cellular?


  Chris, I always have free moments for you. So yes most definitely anytime. In 
a nutshell, what I was trying to say. Where's when I Was with AT&T, with my 
iPhone 5S running IOS nine. I was able to receive phone calls with cellular 
data off, just not text messages. So part of what you said about not being able 
to receive phone calls is not technically true. As for Wi-Fi assist, you want 
to make sure that that is turned off, The reason why is it will use data, if 
your signal is weak. So when list this individual, once tube use their data I 
would leave that completely turned off otherwise, they we'll realize they’ll 
running to situations like what I did whenever I was with AT&T so what happen, 
was my phone with bounce off the Wi-Fi, And switch me over to LTE. And I would 
go to stream, and then I will get text message alerts from AT&T saying and I 
was either half or 75% over my data limit or at used 75%. But, I know longer 
have to worry about that. As I've already done make the switch to a different 
carrier.

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    On Nov 2, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


    Joseph,

    When yu have a free moment to do so, absolutely no hard feelings, but can 
you try that msg again? Siri totally butchered what you were trying to say. LOL!
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      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Joseph Hudson
      To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
      Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 12:56 PM
      Subject: Re: Wifi VS. Cellular?


      Chris, you were explain this the correct way. Yes I suggest leave all the 
Wi-Fi cyst stuff alone, and less it is turned on. Reason why say and with it is 
turned on, is because if the Wi-Fi signal is weak, it will use that data now, 
and referencing the whole data thing, the only thing that you can't receive, if 
selling your data is turned off that you might wish to receive his text 
messages at least that's the way it was with AT&T. Now I'm not sure what 
Verizon but there's no doubt in my mind, that is so your data is turned off, 
date they won't do you want to get their phone calls and I got mine whenever I 
was AT&T customer and I did this on my 5S. If they want a second opinion, I can 
definitely call me get one. I choose not to have a long-range on IOS via email. 
As you, and I know, that I do my best at explaining things via voice. As you 
called me, and got in my opinion before then it would be the best thing for 
them to do. Especially, if they're warning a very valuable second opinion that 
will be just as good as yours

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        On Nov 2, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


        Guys,

        I don't know how to better explain this, and honestly, I'm getting a 
bit agrevated trying to do so. Maybe one of you can chime in and help me out.

        I have a friend who is on this list. I'm not going to reveal which 
member it is, as I don't wish to put anyone here on the spot. I'm not even 
going to reveal their gender.

        Anyway, he/she has just recently obtained an iPhone. They are 
incredibly new to the iPhone world. In fact, they are new to the smart phone 
world in general.

        When they go into settings, Cellular, they see things using data like 
Apple Music, YOutube, etc. I tried to explain to them that yes, those things 
are turned on, as they are set to where cellular data is allowed to be used 
with the apps.

        I told them that if  they either turn off any of those apps, or for 
that mind, do what they wanna do by totally turning cellular off completely, 
that's not a very wise idea in most cases.  I tried explaining that when 
cellular is off, then nothing will work if they're on the Verizon cellular 
4G/LTE network. The only time they'd have data internet connectivity would be 
if they were on a wifi network. Obviously, they don't believe me, or don't 
understand, one of the two.

        I don't know how to explain this any easier. I told them that all 
they're doing by disabling those apps under there like Apple Music, etc. is, 
they're not disabling the apps from currently! using data. All they're doing is 
disabling the apps so they never! will use cellular.

        The example I gave them was, if they turn off Apple Music, then any 
time they move out of range of their wifi, they won't be able to use Apple 
Music, as they've disabled it from being able to be used with Cellular.

        I told them, if they turn off cellular entirely, then they won't be 
able to receive phone calls nor make calls, etc. unless they are on a wifi 
network, as they do have wifi calling enabled.

        Of corse, if they're on wifi, then their internet would also work 
regardless, but as soon as they move away from the wifi range, their internet 
would go kaput and so would their incoming and outgoing calls.

        I tried explaining that by it saying those apps use cellular data, that 
doesn't mean they're necessarily using their 6 gigs of data right then and 
there. The only time that happens is if they're not on a wifi network, at which 
point, it falls back to their LTE cellular data. As long as they are on  a wifi 
network, it would not use their 6GB data plan.

        Again, I'm not gonna reveal who it is, but they are on this list, and 
they definitely do check their mail from this list on a regular basis, so if 
you respond, I know they'll see it, beyond a doubt.

        Perhaps one of you all who're a little more patient today can explain 
this.

        They told me that they called Verizon, and Verizon is telling them to 
always leave cellular completely turned off regardless if they are on wifi or 
not. I find that extremely perplexing, as why the hell would you want your 
cellular to always be off. O, Kayyy. I know places where yes, you may want it 
off, but not 100% of the time. Come on! Really?

        I don't doubt what they're telling me Verizon said to them, and 
honestly, it doesn't exactly surprise me that a rep would a told them this, but 
I will leavbe my personal opinions out, and spare you all.

        Anyway, how else do I explain how that cellualr screen works, and what 
it does?

        Also, they're wonderring in that screen at the veryh bottom what wifi 
assist is.

        I wish they'd leave that stuff back their alone, as I know what's 
probably gonna happen. They're gonna start turning stuff on/off then will dm me 
on Twitter and be like, Chris, why is X, y, and Z not working? Then, I'm gonna 
be lost, as I don't know what they shut on and off.

        I keep telling them, if it isn't broken, don't try fixing it, but, they 
wanna obviously be adventurous, which is fine, to a point, but why ask me what 
something does, if you're only then gonna turn around and say, well, not 
according to what x person/persons tell/tells me.

        I mean, Gawod! Why're you asking me my opinion if you're then gonna 
say, not true from what I hear. They tell me they believe me, but, if they do, 
then why do they contradict every blessid thing I say? I don't clame to know 
everything, no, and I have no issues with getting 2nd opinions, but that's 
really rude when asked for help, I provide, then you turn around in my face and 
say well, that's not true according to whoever intity. If you think what I'm 
saying isn't gonna be true, then why're you asking me to start with!

        OK, rant over.

        Does anyone know how better to explain this screen, and maybe why 
ideally, you'd want to leave cellular on? Does anyone know further how to 
convince this person that as long as they're on a wifi network, that they're 
not eating up their 6GB data? I'm! obviously not gonna convince them, and 
frankly, I'm tired of trying to do so, with all due respect to them. Smile.

        Chris.


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