Joseph,

When yu have a free moment to do so, absolutely no hard feelings, but can you 
try that msg again? Siri totally butchered what you were trying to say. LOL!
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  From: Joseph Hudson 
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  Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 12:56 PM
  Subject: Re: Wifi VS. Cellular?


  Chris, you were explain this the correct way. Yes I suggest leave all the 
Wi-Fi cyst stuff alone, and less it is turned on. Reason why say and with it is 
turned on, is because if the Wi-Fi signal is weak, it will use that data now, 
and referencing the whole data thing, the only thing that you can't receive, if 
selling your data is turned off that you might wish to receive his text 
messages at least that's the way it was with AT&T. Now I'm not sure what 
Verizon but there's no doubt in my mind, that is so your data is turned off, 
date they won't do you want to get their phone calls and I got mine whenever I 
was AT&T customer and I did this on my 5S. If they want a second opinion, I can 
definitely call me get one. I choose not to have a long-range on IOS via email. 
As you, and I know, that I do my best at explaining things via voice. As you 
called me, and got in my opinion before then it would be the best thing for 
them to do. Especially, if they're warning a very valuable second opinion that 
will be just as good as yours

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    On Nov 2, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


    Guys,

    I don't know how to better explain this, and honestly, I'm getting a bit 
agrevated trying to do so. Maybe one of you can chime in and help me out.

    I have a friend who is on this list. I'm not going to reveal which member 
it is, as I don't wish to put anyone here on the spot. I'm not even going to 
reveal their gender.

    Anyway, he/she has just recently obtained an iPhone. They are incredibly 
new to the iPhone world. In fact, they are new to the smart phone world in 
general.

    When they go into settings, Cellular, they see things using data like Apple 
Music, YOutube, etc. I tried to explain to them that yes, those things are 
turned on, as they are set to where cellular data is allowed to be used with 
the apps.

    I told them that if  they either turn off any of those apps, or for that 
mind, do what they wanna do by totally turning cellular off completely, that's 
not a very wise idea in most cases.  I tried explaining that when cellular is 
off, then nothing will work if they're on the Verizon cellular 4G/LTE network. 
The only time they'd have data internet connectivity would be if they were on a 
wifi network. Obviously, they don't believe me, or don't understand, one of the 
two.

    I don't know how to explain this any easier. I told them that all they're 
doing by disabling those apps under there like Apple Music, etc. is, they're 
not disabling the apps from currently! using data. All they're doing is 
disabling the apps so they never! will use cellular.

    The example I gave them was, if they turn off Apple Music, then any time 
they move out of range of their wifi, they won't be able to use Apple Music, as 
they've disabled it from being able to be used with Cellular.

    I told them, if they turn off cellular entirely, then they won't be able to 
receive phone calls nor make calls, etc. unless they are on a wifi network, as 
they do have wifi calling enabled.

    Of corse, if they're on wifi, then their internet would also work 
regardless, but as soon as they move away from the wifi range, their internet 
would go kaput and so would their incoming and outgoing calls.

    I tried explaining that by it saying those apps use cellular data, that 
doesn't mean they're necessarily using their 6 gigs of data right then and 
there. The only time that happens is if they're not on a wifi network, at which 
point, it falls back to their LTE cellular data. As long as they are on  a wifi 
network, it would not use their 6GB data plan.

    Again, I'm not gonna reveal who it is, but they are on this list, and they 
definitely do check their mail from this list on a regular basis, so if you 
respond, I know they'll see it, beyond a doubt.

    Perhaps one of you all who're a little more patient today can explain this.

    They told me that they called Verizon, and Verizon is telling them to 
always leave cellular completely turned off regardless if they are on wifi or 
not. I find that extremely perplexing, as why the hell would you want your 
cellular to always be off. O, Kayyy. I know places where yes, you may want it 
off, but not 100% of the time. Come on! Really?

    I don't doubt what they're telling me Verizon said to them, and honestly, 
it doesn't exactly surprise me that a rep would a told them this, but I will 
leavbe my personal opinions out, and spare you all.

    Anyway, how else do I explain how that cellualr screen works, and what it 
does?

    Also, they're wonderring in that screen at the veryh bottom what wifi 
assist is.

    I wish they'd leave that stuff back their alone, as I know what's probably 
gonna happen. They're gonna start turning stuff on/off then will dm me on 
Twitter and be like, Chris, why is X, y, and Z not working? Then, I'm gonna be 
lost, as I don't know what they shut on and off.

    I keep telling them, if it isn't broken, don't try fixing it, but, they 
wanna obviously be adventurous, which is fine, to a point, but why ask me what 
something does, if you're only then gonna turn around and say, well, not 
according to what x person/persons tell/tells me.

    I mean, Gawod! Why're you asking me my opinion if you're then gonna say, 
not true from what I hear. They tell me they believe me, but, if they do, then 
why do they contradict every blessid thing I say? I don't clame to know 
everything, no, and I have no issues with getting 2nd opinions, but that's 
really rude when asked for help, I provide, then you turn around in my face and 
say well, that's not true according to whoever intity. If you think what I'm 
saying isn't gonna be true, then why're you asking me to start with!

    OK, rant over.

    Does anyone know how better to explain this screen, and maybe why ideally, 
you'd want to leave cellular on? Does anyone know further how to convince this 
person that as long as they're on a wifi network, that they're not eating up 
their 6GB data? I'm! obviously not gonna convince them, and frankly, I'm tired 
of trying to do so, with all due respect to them. Smile.

    Chris.


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