Cellular data is not the phone connection, Think of the cellular network as a number of layers in a shelving rack.
If you turn off the mobile data layer it doesn’t turn off the phone layer. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Friday, 4 November 2016 2:26 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Wifi VS. Cellular? Hi! If i turn cellular data off i can still get calls and text messages. But i live in Sweden and maybe we have other networks here. /A On 2 Nov 2016, at 17:37, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net<mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote: Seems to me you might try it this way. If you have cellular service turned off for any apps, those apps WILL, NOT, be able to use data if you go outside of Wifi range. IF you turn cellular off all together, and have only Wifi calling inabled, you WILL, NOT, be able to make or receive calls unless you are in range of your WIFI network. Can’t see what’s so hard to understand about that myself. Seems very basic to me. Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone7+ and Apple TV user! On Nov 2, 2016, at 11:30 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote: Guys, I don't know how to better explain this, and honestly, I'm getting a bit agrevated trying to do so. Maybe one of you can chime in and help me out. I have a friend who is on this list. I'm not going to reveal which member it is, as I don't wish to put anyone here on the spot. I'm not even going to reveal their gender. Anyway, he/she has just recently obtained an iPhone. They are incredibly new to the iPhone world. In fact, they are new to the smart phone world in general. When they go into settings, Cellular, they see things using data like Apple Music, YOutube, etc. I tried to explain to them that yes, those things are turned on, as they are set to where cellular data is allowed to be used with the apps. I told them that if they either turn off any of those apps, or for that mind, do what they wanna do by totally turning cellular off completely, that's not a very wise idea in most cases. I tried explaining that when cellular is off, then nothing will work if they're on the Verizon cellular 4G/LTE network. The only time they'd have data internet connectivity would be if they were on a wifi network. Obviously, they don't believe me, or don't understand, one of the two. I don't know how to explain this any easier. I told them that all they're doing by disabling those apps under there like Apple Music, etc. is, they're not disabling the apps from currently! using data. All they're doing is disabling the apps so they never! will use cellular. The example I gave them was, if they turn off Apple Music, then any time they move out of range of their wifi, they won't be able to use Apple Music, as they've disabled it from being able to be used with Cellular. I told them, if they turn off cellular entirely, then they won't be able to receive phone calls nor make calls, etc. unless they are on a wifi network, as they do have wifi calling enabled. Of corse, if they're on wifi, then their internet would also work regardless, but as soon as they move away from the wifi range, their internet would go kaput and so would their incoming and outgoing calls. I tried explaining that by it saying those apps use cellular data, that doesn't mean they're necessarily using their 6 gigs of data right then and there. The only time that happens is if they're not on a wifi network, at which point, it falls back to their LTE cellular data. As long as they are on a wifi network, it would not use their 6GB data plan. Again, I'm not gonna reveal who it is, but they are on this list, and they definitely do check their mail from this list on a regular basis, so if you respond, I know they'll see it, beyond a doubt. Perhaps one of you all who're a little more patient today can explain this. They told me that they called Verizon, and Verizon is telling them to always leave cellular completely turned off regardless if they are on wifi or not. I find that extremely perplexing, as why the hell would you want your cellular to always be off. O, Kayyy. I know places where yes, you may want it off, but not 100% of the time. Come on! Really? I don't doubt what they're telling me Verizon said to them, and honestly, it doesn't exactly surprise me that a rep would a told them this, but I will leavbe my personal opinions out, and spare you all. Anyway, how else do I explain how that cellualr screen works, and what it does? Also, they're wonderring in that screen at the veryh bottom what wifi assist is. I wish they'd leave that stuff back their alone, as I know what's probably gonna happen. They're gonna start turning stuff on/off then will dm me on Twitter and be like, Chris, why is X, y, and Z not working? Then, I'm gonna be lost, as I don't know what they shut on and off. I keep telling them, if it isn't broken, don't try fixing it, but, they wanna obviously be adventurous, which is fine, to a point, but why ask me what something does, if you're only then gonna turn around and say, well, not according to what x person/persons tell/tells me. I mean, Gawod! Why're you asking me my opinion if you're then gonna say, not true from what I hear. They tell me they believe me, but, if they do, then why do they contradict every blessid thing I say? I don't clame to know everything, no, and I have no issues with getting 2nd opinions, but that's really rude when asked for help, I provide, then you turn around in my face and say well, that's not true according to whoever intity. If you think what I'm saying isn't gonna be true, then why're you asking me to start with! OK, rant over. Does anyone know how better to explain this screen, and maybe why ideally, you'd want to leave cellular on? Does anyone know further how to convince this person that as long as they're on a wifi network, that they're not eating up their 6GB data? I'm! obviously not gonna convince them, and frankly, I'm tired of trying to do so, with all due respect to them. Smile. Chris. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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