so here is the thing, from what i understand and iPhones are not my
favorite subject, but ill try my best.
When you lock your iPhone the key too encrypt it all is on your phone,
apple don't have it anymore, so not even they can unlock the iPhone,
not even if they wanted, if you use a lock code on say 4 digits, there
is 10000 different combinations, and it gets worse seen form Fbis
point of view, because after i believe it is 10 times wrong passcode,
the phone erases it self.
I personally like this feature, not that i have anything interesting
on my phone, but i like the fact that my data is actually secure,
problem is if they find a way to force apple into making something
that works, even if it is just for one iPhone, guess  what the next
time the shit hits the fan there will be precedence for having apple
roll their magic again.
And that might be the dangerous part. It seems that google is with
apple on this one at least they sites with them, but have anyone heard
any Ms comments?

On 2/18/16, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> Michael,
>     I urge you to do your own moderating by using that delete key on
> messages that bother you. I had to do that very task hundreds of times
> just this week. And I expect that task is far from over. (smiles)
>
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> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
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> On 2/18/2016 9:52 AM, Michael Malver wrote:
>> Two questions:
>> 1. Why is this topic any more important for blind users than for any
>> other? That supposition is non-sensical to me.
>>
>> 2. Since this topic is apparently on-topic, why couldn't Apple design some
>> sort of tool whereby law enforcement could send a specific device to
>> Apple, who could then take the device apart, and read/decrypt the data,
>> much as one might now do through the removal of a hard rive from a
>> laptop?
>> Asked another way, could something be developed which isn't part of the
>> operating system, but which could helplaw enforcement perform their task?
>> For what it's worth, I think Tim is doing absolutely the right thing. A
>> couple bad Americans shouldn't disrupt the majority of us who deserve
>> incryption and who would not misuse it.
>> I ask the above purely as hypotheticles.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 11:40 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search
>>
>>      Not to encourage more heavy traffic but this IS an important issue
>> especially for blind users.
>>
>>   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>      ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>
>> On 2/18/2016 9:30 AM, Michael Malver wrote:
>>> I have a very important comment:
>>> This topic should be off topic for this list, which deals with how blind
>>> people interact with iPhones. I am not a moderator, but I hope I am right
>>> about this.
>>>
>>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wonder if anyone else is following Tim Cook’s position against being
>>>> forced to cripple the security on iPhones.  Anyone have any comments?
>>>>
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