Joseph, I e-mailed her my number off list.  Don't make it a burden on yourself. 
 I'm free, if she needs help, just so's long as she doesn't call on Thanks 
Giving Day specifically.

Any time today, or this Friday though should be fine.  We have the Android 
conference call from 8 to 9 eastern this Friday evening, but aside that, I 
should be free.

Chris.

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  From: joseph hudson 
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  Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 11:05 PM
  Subject: Re: oppinions wanted


  No I did not. Do you think that I should get with her before Saturday? And 
have her do that. If so, I can do that tomorrow evening if need be. It's not 
how I would like to spend my vacation but it can be done.

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    On Nov 24, 2015, at 4:48 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


    Did you have her reset all Voiceover settings in the Voiceover utility?

    Chris.

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      Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:14 PM
      Subject: Re: oppinions wanted


      Chris, when we spoke last evening, I had her check the quick math. It was 
clearly turned off. Other than that little issue that she's having, her Mac 
seems to be running great.

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        On Nov 24, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


        Honestly, there is one very obvious thing which I cannot believe no one 
told you to check.  Do you have quick nav enabled?  Press your left and right 
arrow keys together at the same time.  Not with your vo keys held down.  I'm 
literally saying just press left and right arrows together.  You want to be 
sure it says quick nav off.

        Also, it surprises me to absolutely no end that they didn't have you 
change out the double A batteries in the wireless keyboard that comes with the 
IMac.  It could be that your batteries are nearly dead, and therefore it's 
producing strange results.

        Also, I'm shocked they didn't have you try plugging in a wired USB 
keyboard, even if it's not an apple based keyboard, and see if your navigation 
works.

        If nothing else, they should have offered to try replacing your 
wireless keyboard entirely and send you out a new one, being you said you still 
have Apple Care.

        The other thing that I'm absolutely shocked beyond belief that they 
didn't have you do was to run a disk permissions repair.  I understand now in 
El Capitan, this isn't as easily possible, but you were having this issue 
before in Mavericks, which definitely! you could have ran disk permissions 
repair, as well as an over all disk repair from there.

        I'm not doubting the things you're telling us, but it just seems 
unusually weird that Apple, especially a senior advisor that works for 
Accessibility wouldn't have had you try these things.  I mean, I'm Apple 
certified, and that's one of the very first things I would have had you check.  
Resetting PRam with command+Option+P+R is good, but that may a been overkill.  
Also, I'm not sure if the IMacs would do this, but maybe you may wanna call 
Accessibility back and ask them to help you reset your SMC if that can be done.

        Chris.

        ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Zoe Fiogkos 
          To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
          Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 12:52 PM
          Subject: oppinions wanted


          Today I was on the phone for over 2 hours with apple accessibility 
and they could not fix my problem, so they have made an appointment with the 
apple store for me on Saturday.  Below in point form is my problem and what 
apple accessibility said and I would like your opinions.
          2014 February bought new iMac running mavericks.
          Tried using pages and navigation did not work.
          Left iMac on desk for over a year.
          November 2015 turned on mac same problems.
          Asked for help on various lists, answer was basically get training.
          Took the suggestion of a friend and backed up and upgraded iMac to 
elcapitan.
          Backed up and upgraded without a hitch.
          Problems still exist.
          Upgraded pages.
          On a body of text arrow up reads the text, arrow down jumps to menu 
extras.
          Tested on notes app same thing.
          Spoke with a list member on the telephone, who confirmed that my 
navigation on the mac is screwed.
          Same member confirmed that I am using proper vo commands.
          Member suggested I call apple accessibility.
          Today called them.
          The lady who helped me was named Christie.
          She had me test both pages and notes and confirmed I am doing nothing 
wrong and according to her opinion it’s a software problem.
          She had me hold down p, r, and option, command and then power up.
          Nothing changed.
          She had me hold down shift and power up.
          Nothing changed.
          She had me hold down command r and power up.
          She tried to reinstall osx but the window announced signing into 
appstore and then progress bar busy.
          We tried again.
          Checked if wifi was connected and it was.
          Still the same thing.
          She said there was nothing more she could do, she thinks it’s a 
software problem and that I need to take it into the store to see if they can 
fix it.
          I’m glad that it isn’t me, and that mac training as some suggested is 
not the issue.
          However I’m very sad because obviously something is very wrong.
          Thank God I got apple care when I bought this iMac.
          What do you all think of this?
          Curious what your opinions are.
          Regards
          Zoe


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