Again I must agree.
there is a Maxim in legal studies, your rights end where my nose begins.
One meaning of this is that I and only i in the end decide if something is
offensive...largely because the other party is not going to agree
regardless.
so, the greater question is why are you giving one person so much power
over you that you have to run away to another list?
To be honest, I am on this list, and I am totally lost as to who has
started another challenge...because I just do not read, or take
personally messages that are not true for me.
Karen
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015, Yuma Decaux wrote:
See what happens and keep this status quo going on while a majority is agreeing
on several points? So we’re just discussing uselessly is this correct?
On 27/08/2015, at 2:41 AM, Jim Gatteys <jgatt...@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess we'll just have to see what happens.
I personally think it is counter productive to let one person make the entire
list not a good place for its members. But with all this discussion we are
giving him more attention which is probably what he wants in the first place.
Jim
On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
That’s an easy one, because no one person can and should speak for anyone else.
We’ve already discussed on this thread what happens when a moderator goes all
power hungry. I remember when it happened on an iteration of this list
probably 4 years back now and most people left the group because the moderator
in this case was on crack.
On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Jim Gatteys <jgatt...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why should everybody have to create a rule to filter out one objectionable
person when a moderator could handle that quickly and efficiently.
On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
Just add the objectionable person to a rule and move it automatically to the
trash.
Simple, problem solved and no moderation.
On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Yuma Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com> wrote:
ET is right, I am afraid to say this.
I cannot count the number of times this person has fired out, insulted, then
asked pardon, justifying some personal issues which do not belong to any
mailing list, then repeat the process almost within the hour. If he is so
defensive and threatening towards so many people, this is because these
responders also feel offended by his words. There is a democratic process going
on, a natural finger pointing of someone who just abuses the fact that there
are no moderators in this list. Some of us try to resolve this one way or the
other but nothing will be done if no one takes action, gas bagging and
cackering instead in the drainpipe of opinionated expression. The latter is
useless. Action can solve everything.
Take care
On 27/08/2015, at 12:43 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
There are as many opinions here as there are members of this group. This issue
is generating a lot of traffic that is not helpful to the grpup. We have one
person who cannot control himself. Banning him will break the fever and let the
group move on.
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 8/26/2015 7:31 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
A very simple solution is for everyone to be aware that the list is moderated,
and throw in a public warning to whoever is continuously abusing others
verbally, not necessarily ban the person. The point is to make the offensive
person reflect on themselves. Banning them would result in upsets and possible
worse attitudes in other lists.
On 26/08/2015, at 10:39 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes until you’ve eventually removed everyone from deviating from your
acceptable use over time.
Banning someone from any mailing list is just weak sauce. The only exception
to that at least for me is spammers. There have been serious lack of
moderation and spam problems on other lists like the eyesore list from Google.
Automated programs dumping recruiting adds and so forth is just disruptive.
Pending that though I couldn’t see banning someone.
On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:06 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
It only takes one person to throw a list like this into utter chaos. Removing
that person permanently would return the list to a relatively peaceful and more
focused environment.
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 8/25/2015 11:49 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
Yes indeed, this list has gone from, at various stages of its life, totally
noisy and idiotic, to totally over-regulated, veering back toward the noisy
end. I too am a great fan of the love-it-or-leave-it style of discussion, but
there’s something to be said for having a person—possibly just one person—with
a hand near to the levers that restore calm and order in times of imminent
crisis. This goes as well for practically any networked service, not just
email lists.
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