See what happens and keep this status quo going on while a majority is agreeing on several points? So we’re just discussing uselessly is this correct?
> On 27/08/2015, at 2:41 AM, Jim Gatteys <jgatt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I guess we'll just have to see what happens. > I personally think it is counter productive to let one person make the entire > list not a good place for its members. But with all this discussion we are > giving him more attention which is probably what he wants in the first place. > Jim > > >> On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> That’s an easy one, because no one person can and should speak for anyone >> else. >> >> We’ve already discussed on this thread what happens when a moderator goes >> all power hungry. I remember when it happened on an iteration of this list >> probably 4 years back now and most people left the group because the >> moderator in this case was on crack. >> >> On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Jim Gatteys <jgatt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Why should everybody have to create a rule to filter out one objectionable >>> person when a moderator could handle that quickly and efficiently. >>> >>>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Just add the objectionable person to a rule and move it automatically to >>>> the trash. >>>> >>>> Simple, problem solved and no moderation. >>>> >>>>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 11:01 AM, Yuma Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ET is right, I am afraid to say this. >>>>> >>>>> I cannot count the number of times this person has fired out, insulted, >>>>> then asked pardon, justifying some personal issues which do not belong to >>>>> any mailing list, then repeat the process almost within the hour. If he >>>>> is so defensive and threatening towards so many people, this is because >>>>> these responders also feel offended by his words. There is a democratic >>>>> process going on, a natural finger pointing of someone who just abuses >>>>> the fact that there are no moderators in this list. Some of us try to >>>>> resolve this one way or the other but nothing will be done if no one >>>>> takes action, gas bagging and cackering instead in the drainpipe of >>>>> opinionated expression. The latter is useless. Action can solve >>>>> everything. >>>>> >>>>> Take care >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 27/08/2015, at 12:43 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> There are as many opinions here as there are members of this group. This >>>>>> issue is generating a lot of traffic that is not helpful to the grpup. >>>>>> We have one person who cannot control himself. Banning him will break >>>>>> the fever and let the group move on. >>>>>> >>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>>>> in the past. What if it were true? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/26/2015 7:31 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote: >>>>>>> A very simple solution is for everyone to be aware that the list is >>>>>>> moderated, and throw in a public warning to whoever is continuously >>>>>>> abusing others verbally, not necessarily ban the person. The point is >>>>>>> to make the offensive person reflect on themselves. Banning them would >>>>>>> result in upsets and possible worse attitudes in other lists. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 26/08/2015, at 10:39 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes until you’ve eventually removed everyone from deviating from your >>>>>>>> acceptable use over time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Banning someone from any mailing list is just weak sauce. The only >>>>>>>> exception to that at least for me is spammers. There have been >>>>>>>> serious lack of moderation and spam problems on other lists like the >>>>>>>> eyesore list from Google. Automated programs dumping recruiting adds >>>>>>>> and so forth is just disruptive. Pending that though I couldn’t see >>>>>>>> banning someone. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 3:06 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It only takes one person to throw a list like this into utter chaos. >>>>>>>>> Removing that person permanently would return the list to a >>>>>>>>> relatively peaceful and more focused environment. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>>>>>>> in the past. What if it were true? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 8/25/2015 11:49 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Yes indeed, this list has gone from, at various stages of its life, >>>>>>>>>> totally noisy and idiotic, to totally over-regulated, veering back >>>>>>>>>> toward the noisy end. I too am a great fan of the >>>>>>>>>> love-it-or-leave-it style of discussion, but there’s something to be >>>>>>>>>> said for having a person—possibly just one person—with a hand near >>>>>>>>>> to the levers that restore calm and order in times of imminent >>>>>>>>>> crisis. 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