Actually, Ray, I don't know what to think of tylor. One minute, he gripes at
all of us, but then in another one of his posts, he says whether we like it or
agree or not, NDA's NDA. If Apple says you can't discuss it, then you can't.
I just wish he'd make up his mind which way he flies, once and for all.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Foret Jr
To: Mac Visionaries List
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: OS X beta.
Well, Chris, don't let Tylor's remark to me bother yuh. It's just Tylor
being Tylor and trying to cope with the fact that he can't or won't accept
Apple's nice strict NDA. People like that are why there's a delete key.
Mine's gotten a fair amount of use recently.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
Sent from my Mac,
the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
On Aug 7, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Tylor, was that really necessary?
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Littlefield, Tyler"
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Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: OS X beta.
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Did you have to check a "constantly barefooted" box on the NDA
agreement as well?
On 8/6/2015 6:04 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
Got news for y'all. public beta or not, it cannot be discussed.
That's Apple's policy. Just deal with it. IF you really want to
know, sign up for their public beta program and find out. Y'all
are really something else.
Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
blind built-in
On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Sunshine <sunsh...@abe.midco.net
<mailto:sunsh...@abe.midco.net>> wrote:
I agree with the person that stated a public beta is a public
beta, so that a person should be able to discuss the public beta
of osx and the like why make it a public beta if they want nda as
well, public beta means that public beta you should be able to
discuss it with out havint to worry about things so public beta
means no nda.
On 8/6/2015 1:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Diddo.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- *From:* Joe Quinn
<mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com> *To:*
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:24 PM
*Subject:* Re: OS X beta.
as I've said, and I remember responding to this exact
question, so, rather than reply again, I'll just put my
original reply below. It still stands. The only thing I'll say
different is that if ya don't like, or have questions about,e
Apple or their policies in reguards to beta software, contact
them about it. :( it may not make sense, but that's the way it
is. NDA, and all that. in spite of it being public, ya still
can't talk about it publically. now if something's released
about IOS 9 from apple, then it can be discussed. I think
that's the same for things that're released elsewhere. for
instance cool blind tech did an overview of what is going to be
in iOS 9. maybe they shouldn't've done that, NDA again, but
they did.
On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Les Kriegler
<<mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, then that really doesn't make sense to me. How can you
make something available to everybody and then swear
everybody to secrecy.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Joe Quinn
<<mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com>jdawg1...@gmail.com> wrote:
The only thing that has changed in the betas is that you
no longer "need" to have a developer account. Thus making
it a "public" beta. NDA still applies.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 6, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Les Kriegler
<<mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote:
Okay, a question here. If this is a public beta, then
why can’t questions be asked? If it’s as it was before
and it wasn’t public, then I could understand. But if
Apple is now going public with their betas, then I would
think this is open for discussion. Now, if Im confusing
the public beta with OS 9, then I apologize for the
question. Thanks.
Les
On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>clgillan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I have to say in this particular case, I agree with
Sadam. It's not like he's asking for specifics. He
just wanted a general yes, or no.
I guess the only agreement with Ray I would have is,
admittedly, this is kind of a grey area, as what one
may think is unstable, someone else may not really be
as concerned about.
Over all though, yes, Sadam, I think it's safe to
install, for what it's worth.
Yeah, there are some issues, but I don't think they're
to the point of being debilitating.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- *From:* Sadam Ahmed
<mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com> *To:*
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 9:21 AM
*Subject:* Re: OS X beta.
So, where in my message am I going into specifics?
Yes it’s stable at this time. Or no hold off there
are a couple of issues. That would suffice.
With Best regards,
Sadam Ahmed
Diploma of International Business candidate
RMIT University
Blog:
Http://www.SadamAhmed.com
<http://www.sadamahmed.com/>
Sent using OS X Mail
On 6 Aug 2015, at 9:30 pm, Ray Foret Jr
<<mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>rforet7...@comcast.net>
wrote:
With respect, I disagree. You did ask for
something to specific to discuss with you either
privately or otherwise. To ask how stable a beta OS
is something that touches on a degree of specifity
which is not something I for one am willing to go
in to.
Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and
Apple TV user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full
accessibility for the blind built-in
On Aug 6, 2015, at 4:39 AM,
<mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com>sadam.li...@gmail.com
wrote:
Ray,
I'm not asking for specifics.
Only gauging the suitability of putting this on
my Mac.
The question was quite broad.
Don't think it breaks NDA.
Sent from my iPhone
--
On 6 Aug 2015, at 7:23 pm, Ray Foret Jr
<<mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>rforet7...@comcast.net>
wrote:
Let me gentally remind you that we cannot
discuss beta findings here.
Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+
and Apple TV user!
Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full
accessibility for the blind built-in
On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:40 AM,
<mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com>sadam.li...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to install the current beta and
am wondering how stable the current release
is?
If you would like to make contact off the
list regarding this feel free to reach out.
Thanks in advance,
Sadam Ahmed
Sent from my iPhone
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