Safari is wicked slow at handling frames. If you can get in to group mode though, that will take care of any issues you are having with tables. For example. There is a web site called tape trader where fans trade their recordings of live conserts. When you do a search or look at some ones list of shows in dom mode, the dates don't show up anywhere. All of the other info is available, and you can check the shows you want, but you cant get the date with VO, which is the most important piece of the puzzle. By switching to group mode, I guess it takes the date out of the check box column where it shows up on windows and gives it its own column. So you can cruze the dates very easily and check the one you want. Only two problems I've found with group mode. It does tend to slow browsing down a bit, and safari is not known for being greesed lightning to begin with in my experience. Also, your adium chats won't display properly in group mode, a situation which I very much hope will be fixed at some point because group mode is my friend and I'd like to keep him with me always.
Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-11-04, at 9:47 AM, anouk radix wrote: > > Hi, erik I use the item chooser extensively in fact I navigate > webpages often not by element but by webrotor or item chooser because > some pages are rather confusing to me with voicover even though i use > dom, some items just dont show up with vo-right, i think because they > are in tables so i just use webrotor and item chooser instead. One > problem i have with item chooser is that i fI want to go to the second > occasion of a certain string I cant use it, i think because it only > shows unique things. I also notice frames a lot mor ethen on the pc > and I have to open a certain frame before I can see its contents, on > the pc i did not have to worry about frames at all. some times pages > with frames are entirely unaccessible (worldofaegis). But overall > surfing goes relatively well even though on some occasions safari is > still agonizingly slow and does not respond at all. > Greetings, Anouk > On Nov 4, 2009, at 1:59 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> >> Anouk, >> >> Instead of VO F, try VO I. This is the item chooser which you >> probably know about already, but it's applications on the web are >> endless. >> >> The item chooser will filter the objects on the screen based on what >> you type. If you type search or results, you will quickly get to the >> search results notice at the top of your search . If you only know >> pages with frames are even totally unaccessible (the >> worldofaegis.com site for example) but for the most part now that I >> have done it a bit more often > >> part of the word you are looking form, that will work as well. Once >> you type something in you can arrow down to see all the items on the >> window or page that have the string you typed appearing anywhere in >> them. This is more friendly than pressing control F, enter, reading >> the first instance, then pressing control F again and enter again to >> go to the next instance. >> >> If you don't find what you're looking for in the item chooser, simply >> press the back space once to clear the entry and type something else. >> >> It's fantastic, and it made my browsing experience for me back when >> element navigation wasn't as good as it is now. >> >> Best, >> >> erik burggraaf >> A+ certified technician and user support consultant. >> Phone: 888-255-5194 >> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2009-11-04, at 5:12 AM, anouk radix wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello Nicolai, >>> Hello, Although I do get more experienced with the mac and the web >>> everyday I still find my windows solution faster, I use the item >>> chooser and the web rotor, i only miss the fact that I cannot search >>> for a certain text string again. Vo-f does not seem to work for me >>> within safari. Also at times when reading messages in a forum with >>> my >>> braille display it does not want to advance to a new message so it >>> does not read the entire page but just skips to the beginning of the >>> currentmessage again and I have to do vo-right about 12 times to get >>> to the beginning of the next message instead. >>> I do now more or less know how to use the finder as effectively as >>> possible although it is still lsow, i will try Gregs script real >>> soon >>> and probbably write the pathfinder as well to see if their program >>> can >>> be improved. >>> Greetings, Anouk >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
