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Yuma Antoine Decaux
"Light has no value without darkness"
Mob: +61 410732547
Skype: Shainobi1
twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7





> On 11/04/2015, at 12:49 pm, The Believer <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   Perhaps it is choice, I see it as part of the initial decisuon. I have a 
> Macbook Pro, and have added things to it but do not feel forced.
> 
>   Its first generation, let the pioneers blaze the trail for us. I can wait. 
> I waited 5 generations for the iPhone. And let the brave pioneers smack 
> themselves upside the head. For its true that because of those hardy souls, 
> we reap the benefits down the road.
> 
>   Me, I have what I need today. I always laugh when the news covers the 
> stories of people camping out overnight for Black Friday or new product 
> releases.
> 
>   Reviews of a product that is not yet in anyone's hands?
> 
> From The Believer. . .
>   By way of the Chariots of the
> Gods cameth the Aliens who
> dwelt amongst the humans,
> and bringeth much knowledge.
> 
> On 4/10/2015 7:30 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
>> See, it’s about choice again. Yet choices force you to other choices.
>> Like chess. If you make a move, you’re forced to make another one, and
>> that’s where it cascades into having to make a lot more purchases than
>> you initially thought of. A house is the biggest avalanche of custs one
>> can decide on. Yet, if you have enough money you can also just rent a
>> place. Financially, depending on where you are, it’s actually better not
>> to buy a place outright because the admin council and sewage/garbage
>> collection fees stack up to higher than rent. the only thing smarter
>> would be to make sure the house will rise and go beyond inflation, and
>> you might have a granny flat or room to rent out. My point again, choice.
>> 
>> Here’s a good roundup of recommendations from various people about the
>> watch:
>> 
>> http://www.businessinsider.com.au/the-truth-about-the-apple-watch-2015-4?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+businessinsider+%2528Business+Insider%2529
>> <http://www.businessinsider.com.au/the-truth-about-the-apple-watch-2015-4?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+businessinsider+%28Business+Insider%29>
>> 
>> 
>> Again, yes for a device that extends the capabilities of the phone, but
>> I’m not sold on this fat toffee of a first try at watchmaking which is
>> actually not very slick and I truly believe people will hit themselves
>> on the head when the next one comes out, with either a new battery tech
>> that can slim the thing down to actual superb rendition or enough kinks
>> and design flaws will have made the actual watch statement valid.
>> Because for now, even if I couldn’t see the dial, I would much prefer
>> walking around with my seiko or one of the tag heuuers I still have in
>> terms of statement than this thing which reminds me of the weird talking
>> watch someone purchased for me once. Read the article and you will see
>> each of the comments echo my initial points when I walked into that
>> store yesterday.
>> 
>> 
>> Yuma Antoine Decaux
>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>> Mob: +61 410732547
>> Skype: Shainobi1
>> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/04/2015, at 12:20 pm, The Believer <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yuma,
>>>  When the iPhone first came out, I had a hard time believing a blind
>>> person could use a touch screen when it eventually began to be made
>>> accessible.
>>> 
>>>  But at some point, I began to consider the merits of an iPhone. Then
>>> the time came for me to replace an old cell phone and I got the iPhone
>>> 5. Its now just over 2 years old and I am far from needing to look at
>>> newer models. I can see still using it 2 years from now, barring any
>>> unforseen incidents.
>>> 
>>>  The Apple Watch may well meet the needs of some people., Its not in
>>> my future. It sounds cool but that is as far as I go with it.
>>> 
>>>  If I out some thougt into it, I could come up with many products I
>>> was "forced" to buy but that was not my point.
>>> 
>>>  What you are saying is like buying some ground beef. Oh now I am
>>> forced to buy a skillet so I can cook it. (smiles)
>>> 
>>> From The Believer. . .
>>>  By way of the Chariots of the
>>> Gods cameth the Aliens who
>>> dwelt amongst the humans,
>>> and bringeth much knowledge.
>>> 
>>> On 4/10/2015 6:57 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
>>>> Hi Believer,
>>>> 
>>>> Rightly said, however here’s a few points.
>>>> 
>>>> there’s a product called usb to thunderbolt converter I’m forced to buy
>>>> because i bought an apple product. Not saying this because I don’t like
>>>> it, but its a design decision against standards that one or other
>>>> company forces which forces me, the end of the food chain, to buy
>>>> because I have other products which I use which are not compatible. All
>>>> a matter of choice, and choice we have yet don’t have. you know why?
>>>> Simply because we’re visually impaired and are restricted to what is
>>>> available. I’m sure if you or i were sighted, we could very well be
>>>> happy with a chromebook or an android.
>>>> 
>>>> I reported this via mail because I was actually infuriated by the big
>>>> gap between what was presented to me during the apple keynote and what I
>>>> felt touched and heard from the apple store. And the freaking price.
>>>> Same price as an iphone 6 64 gigs. Food for thought. And if you look at
>>>> the reviews, they are mixed already, not unanimous like other quote
>>>> unquote revolutionary products such as iphone or the good iteartive
>>>> outings of macbooks and airs. So its more of a warning to others than my
>>>> personal I think yada blahbbling.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yuma Antoine Decaux
>>>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>>>> Mob: +61 410732547
>>>> Skype: Shainobi1
>>>> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/04/2015, at 10:59 am, The Believer <ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> What I find so very interesting is how these types of discussions go
>>>>> on and on about new products, how some people state they would never
>>>>> buy it, yada yada yada.
>>>>> 
>>>>> At the end of the day, what is the point? Don't like it? Its too
>>>>> heavy. Too big. Too expensive. Too small. Too cheap.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Name a product that you are forced against your will to buy. Name one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am not going to buy the Apple Watch simply because I have no need
>>>>> for a watch. Who cares? No one cares. Right and I don't care if some
>>>>> of you do not want to buy it either for any reason. Its not important.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Apple Watch may well be a nice product. But it sure as hell is
>>>>> not a "must-have" product. Mankind has survived without it for
>>>>> thousands of years. (smiles)
>>>>> 
>>>>> From The Believer. . .
>>>>> By way of the Chariots of the
>>>>> Gods cameth the Aliens who
>>>>> dwelt amongst the humans,
>>>>> and bringeth much knowledge.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 4/10/2015 4:41 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>>>>>> Comments below.
>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com
>>>>>> <mailto:listse...@me.com>
>>>>>> <mailto:listse...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Come on, guys. It’s a small device that you can wear on the wrist.
>>>>>> Don’t you see any potential there at all? The remote control you’ve
>>>>>> always wanted?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Doesn’t a new remote control  interfere with the narrative that
>>>>>> people are sitting too much?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The around-the-house communications device for the friends and
>>>>>> family while your phone is docked and not weighing you down? Even the
>>>>>> need for an iPhone is not so much of a deal, if the watch proves
>>>>>> useful outdoors, because any place that you would go already sees you
>>>>>> needing the phone for phone functions, regardless; your watch will
>>>>>> always tether to a local phone, wherever you happen to be.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, we are supposed to want to buy a new iPhone, but we aren’t
>>>>>> supposed to want to have to touch it.  We need to git a watch so we
>>>>>> don’t actually have to directly use our new iPhones.  I still am
>>>>>> finding their messaging confusing..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So I preordered. I’ll take the leap. Why not? It might just be my
>>>>>> imagination, but even now I have more fondness for my iPods than my
>>>>>> iPhone as a music player—what’s to say the watch won’t make some of
>>>>>> the things that are made clumsy by the need to pull out my phone and
>>>>>> that I do all the time more enjoyable?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You don’t want to have to handle your new iPhone.
>>>>>> Actually, I think that there are applications that a wearable  would
>>>>>> make  easier to use.  But, I think those applications are limited.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> , yes, I do think something has changed in the way Apple prioritises
>>>>>> things; this product seems far more strained, for lack of a better
>>>>>> word, and that may well be the result of executive decision-making
>>>>>> that tends towards company growth rather than user satisfaction.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It looks to me like Apple trying to emulate Google.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, anyway, I’m especially looking forward to handling incoming
>>>>>> notifications while I’m on the toilet. :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wow!  Now I’m listening.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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