It’s not about comparing the apple watch with another watch price wise. I Said that I have worn watches including a piget, a tag heueur and even a simple swatch. The experience of holding it on your wrist, design wise is already a no no when I wore the apple watch. Read a bit more before you jump to your one point t-shirt. Wearing the sports watch was especially ridiculous. The sales girl even talked about this design defect, saying “The sports watch is a bit finnicky and unstable because the sides of the watch give a lot of space between it and your wrist” then she points at it and goes “see?”. Primary source here people.
Cheers, Yuma Antoine Decaux "Light has no value without darkness" Mob: +61 410732547 Skype: Shainobi1 twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 > On 11/04/2015, at 9:16 am, Joanne Chua <shuang.an...@gmail.com> wrote: > > FFor those that complain about how heavy the watch is, have you guys honestly > ever see a real man watch in your life? > Not talking about those cheapies that you might pick up on wall mart, or > Cosco, but a real watch that is cost $300 and above? > Have you guys, also, ever see other smart watch to compare with? > Cause, as far as i'm concern, comparing a smart watch to a braille watch, or > even to a talking watch is like comparing banana and lemon, and decideing > which will be more benifitial for you, or simply comparing braille book and > talking book, and deciding which you like the best... > Oh, by the way, Swiss Seiko braille watch for women cost about $300USD, and > of course, you can picked up a RNIB braille watch for around $30USD or even > less too. > And, like i mention before, a Swiss Rolex watch, ordinary watch for not > ordinary people starting price is at least four figures... > So, what do you compare the Appple Watch against? Against your $50 wall mart > watch, your $10 talking watch, your $100 braille watch, your $300 EOne, or > something else? > And, what you compare the top edition watch with, the one that cost $17,000? > Apple is not stupid, they market that to the people that might own 4 BMW, > sitting at their carport, collecting dusts, people that buying a house with > full loads of cash, peple that never need to do a single thing, and have $$$ > simple flowing in to their back account every minisecond. > As much as it is hard to believe, such population exist. > And, i recall it very well, when the ipad came out, everyone have the same > thing, whining ad complaining about how ipad is just the giant ipod, its > useless and all that. Well, oh well, how many among us in this list alone, > own an ipad, iphone, and the ipod? > > > > Joanne Chua > Send from my iPad > > On 11 Apr 2015, at 8:30, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com > <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> I go to the Apple store tomorrow afternoon for an appointment to look at an >> Apple Watch. I've one in my basket but I'm interested in Voice Over plus I >> have other questions. Once I've seen it, I'll report back. I want it for >> the heart monitor as I explained before, I walk two hours a day. >> >> Kawal. >> On 10 Apr 2015, at 21:50, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se >> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> Yu make me Laugh. >> I have never understood the meaning of the apple watch nor other smart >> watches. >> I’ve touched a peble but was not impressed. >> I could actually by me an ipod nano and use that instead. >> /A >>> 10 apr 2015 kl. 16:37 skrev Yuma Antoine Decaux <jamy...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:jamy...@gmail.com>>: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Just wanted to tell you guys what my first impression of an apple watch, as >>> a design cue, on the instant the apple sales girl handed it to me. It >>> almost felt as though she was unsure whether to hand it over after talking >>> market stuff about it, and after a few tos and fros, I had the suspicion >>> she had the same idea. >>> >>> It’s thick. Imagine a large toffee. with a button and a digital crown on >>> the side. I was first handed the links bracelet model. And the truth is, I >>> will wait for a way slimmer version. No matter the functionalities of this >>> thing. The demo it gave, as we couldn’t test it out there and then, gave >>> some impressions on the haptic. Sure, it gives you a very discreet tick on >>> the wrist. Wow. Really? Amazing technology. Feel the sarcasm. But what >>> still is stamped with hot iron in my mind is not this tick, but how ugly it >>> felt in my hand with its thickness. Imagine thick enough so that you have a >>> space on the sides of your wrist with both links and sports bands. You can >>> fit a cigarette on either side. You just can’t find a position that leaves >>> the bracelet flat over your wrist all around. Even that fancy metal mesh >>> bracelet had a space. What struck me was that I when I said “This thing is >>> rather thick”, the sales girl replied with a “Yeah, I was really surprised >>> too”. I think this must have been a deal breaker for a lot of people going >>> in there to see it. I couldn’t hear any oos or aahs anywhere. Checking both >>> sizes of this thing, there’s not much difference and both just feel like >>> fat unattractive toffees that come with diferent bands which don’t add >>> anything to the watch culture. Having had watches before in my time, I much >>> preffer having nothing on my wrist than this hunk of technology that seems >>> to have a fatal bullimic inclination due to battery restrictions. >>> >>> The second shocker for me was that this little piece of thing which is >>> useless without an iphone actually costs more than an iphone 6 here in >>> Australia. Not only is it a second deal breaker, it’s a total insult to >>> australian consumers. From 500 something mentioned during the presentation >>> to over 1600 aus dollars here, with 200 extra for the space black version. >>> It’s a complete ripoff. And I weigh my words. See why below: >>> >>> 1-It does nothing without pairing it with an iphone 5 or more. It’s totally >>> useless when your phone dies, if it doesn’t die before it. >>> 2-The fancy shmancy terms used like digital crown are a gimmick beyond the >>> slickest of car salespersons. I have less respect for Jimmy Ive now. It’s >>> just a freaking rotating button which you can also push. Man this is the >>> future (sarcasm again) >>> 3-You have to charge it daily, along with the phone. If you have a guide >>> dogm another pet, uni, etc the list goes on, why consider an extra daily >>> chore like this for not much? >>> 4-To make it cost more than an iphone, which in all technological, >>> functional and complexity terms has more to give than a watch is a blatant >>> disrespect of customers as well as an inherent belief from these people >>> that once hooked, a stupid apple customer will buy anything that comes out >>> just from the hype driven events. >>> 5-As blind phone users, I believe This is useless anyway. let me develop >>> below. >>> >>> I jack my phone with headphones when I walk around, either to tell siri to >>> open ariadne gps which gives me directions, or call this or do that. I have >>> the handy mic button and siri works for simple tasks like this. An apple >>> watch won’t bring anything better to my experience in the active set. >>> Having the phone talk to me while i walk is the worst geek nerd >>> interpretation nightmare I could think of, and I would have to lean the >>> hand toward my ear anyway because of background noise, and I won’t make >>> myself look like a sick puppy with a flebo on my wrist with earbuds. And >>> you need to pull your arm up to do anything to it. Another thing the sales >>> girl told me which just completely killed it, in a very comical way, was >>> that apple advised that they wanted watch users not to use the watch over >>> 30 seconds at a time, as they thought it was the benchmark limit at which >>> point your arm gets tired. Talk about computer human interaction research >>> (another sarcasm). This was one other of their excuses for battery time >>> that basically sucked shit (excuse my french) and providing weird marketing >>> justifications to still try and make the watch appealing. However, by that >>> time, the sales girl knew she smelled better than this thing, than the >>> watch, that I was not sold on the design factor (as a blind user and former >>> 3D modeler), I really didn’t find this good. at all. My impression was that >>> it would be a longer rectangular shape, slimmer along the arm and longer >>> over the wrist, slightly bent, pretty much marrying the shape of the wrist, >>> and giving more expansion to the battery. Seriously, go to an apple store >>> and touch the thing. It’s ugly to the touch. >>> >>> In the end, I told the sales girl I wanted a pair of those apple earbuds, >>> the standard cheapo ones, and please send me to the genius bar. I love >>> their genius as everytime I have an issue on my iphone 6 (twice this year, >>> first one being that it died inexplicably when I woke up one morning, and >>> this time it bent in my jeans pocket and I couldn’t use the headphones >>> anymore) have the genius of just replacing your phone. Final irony is that >>> I had no idea it was bent but one of the staff members noticed it. And >>> obviously the restore backup on icloud etc required me to hand off my >>> password about 5 times to the genius because voice over wasn’t turning on >>> right there and then, and required an update from 8.2 to 8.3. And to >>> imagine taht my server setup at home, with cache of all new software that >>> pushes it to my devices in a flash, once it downloaded on the server, was >>> not installed at the apple store itself, meaning I had to stand there like >>> a bum for 25 odd minutes with the genius giving me some meta technical >>> explanation when I pointed it out (meaning it was bullshit to a computer >>> science student majoring in maths but completely valid to a lambda user), I >>> felt like I was in a place I really didn’t want to be in. Everything just >>> felt fake, the music felt like some weird supermarket of tech >>> accompaniment, the people going there felt like they were second or third >>> or fifth wave apple new buyers (Unlike myself, who’s first computer was an >>> apple II), I felt like apple just went down a notch in my respect gauge, >>> meaning that the entire tech industry and my faith in it went down since I >>> won’t find better for now. >>> >>> Maybe I was expecting too much from this apple watch, maybe I’m spot on. >>> I’m usually very good with my intuition and when the rest of the pack >>> starts to pick it up, I don >>> t go “you see?” but it generally occurs and I smile to myself silently. So >>> I thought it good to communicate this to y’all, my conclusion being: wait >>> for a slimmer, less expensive version of this luxury item made for those >>> who have to show tech because only tech savvy as mass consumer, not slick >>> tech guru type with a much brighter idea of the future than this poorly >>> executed timepiece. I’m sure the software is top notch. I trust Freddericci >>> and his team of apple engineers. I don’t trust Johnny ive’s pompous >>> description of things and his love of bling bling, and I don’t trust Tim >>> cook’s accountant/logistics mind. I really hope apple will get one of the >>> nwer guys within to come out. A younger design guy too. apple is heading >>> towards a weird frontier of utopic pontificating tech that I’m not >>> comfortable with to be honest. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> Yuma Antoine Decaux >>> "Light has no value without darkness" >>> Mob: +61 410732547 >>> Skype: Shainobi1 >>> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7 <http://www.twitter.com/triple7> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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