Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8

[Karen Lewellen]

Chris,
May i practice a bit of radical forgiveness here using your post?
If you find my comments distasteful, then I will not comment again.
Still you say something very important.
None of us know one way or the other what factors are feeding  all the 
issues  He is having.  Because we do not know, that the product works for 
you, while terrific for you, has no impact on their frustrations.
Unfortunately when some humans feel their views are being discounted, i. 
e.  hey its working for me, no matter how well meant, they feel that you 
are discounting them personally.
Yes they can choose otherwise, but many a government leader does the same 
thing with countless suffering as a result.
My point is this.
Perhaps , just perhaps we can all consider adding an expression when we 
comment about someone Else's stated problem.
"speaking only for myself." or " In my experience."  Then talk about what 
you are finding is working without assuming that if it works for you it 
must work for all.
does that make sense?
granted  Rio I believe it was did take things very personally, and chose 
words in attack intended to bother.
Speaking only for myself <smiles> I learned a long time ago that offense is 
a choice made in many ways largely by the person taking offense.  His  words
 do not bother me, because I know those works have nothing to do with me.
If someone started yelling about your orange socks and blue colored hair, 
And you had neither, would you take offense?
same can go here, if you choose, no matter how colorful the metaphors.
You are not the person having the problem, but you can share how something 
is  not a problem...for you.
Make sense?
Kare who will now go back to her dickens.

On Sat, 28 Mar 2015, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

I agree with David here 100%.  I don't know if I'd say necessarily spoiled 
though.  We have no way of knowing that one way or another.  I however do 
agree that his comments are uncalled for... very much so, I do.

Chris.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" <daj.griff...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8


I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a
small spoilt child ranting in a playground.
We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling
personal insults at each other.
Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list.
If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off.

David Griffith

On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote:


 man, why  you are so stupid?
 you work for apple?
 apple pay all your debts at the end of the month?
 apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over?
 yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ...
 shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ...

 Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu:
>  All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the 
>  beginning have pretty much been fixed.
>  I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first 
>  generation, and all is very very smoothe.  I really don't have any 
>  issues any longer.  OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item 
>  chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, 
>  and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as 
>  that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it.
>  Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just 
>  gonna have to trust me with this.
>  Chris.
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> 
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      *From:* Jon Solitro <mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com>
>      *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>      <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>      *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM
>      *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
> 
>      The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as
>      I haven't been able to download it yet.
> 
>      I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth
>      it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to
>      run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade?
> 
>      Sent from my iPad
> 
>      On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, "george b" <gbma...@gmail.com
>      <mailto:gbma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> >      What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am
> >      interested in this please.
> > 
> >      thanks
> > 
> >      *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >      <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> >      [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon 
> >      Solitro
> >      *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54
> >      *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> >      <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> >      *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
> > 
> >      I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running
> >      iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to
> >      install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation?
> > 
> > 
> >      On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux
> >      wrote:
> > 
> >          Hi all,
> > 
> >          I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8
> >          and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar.
> >          Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off
> >          midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when
> >          getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started
> >          looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to
> >          nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out
> >          for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2
> >          debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was
> >          going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2
> >          tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want
> >          some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I
> >          shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do
> >          things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some
> >          great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans
> >          aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I
> >          go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my
> >          future.
> > 
> >          Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for
> >          those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple,
> >          just remember a few basic things:
> > 
> >          1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving
> >          apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut
> >          on your music production or app developement with their
> >          platform. They serve you. Not the other way around.
> > 
> >          2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that
> >          collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few
> >          individuals decide on the direction of that experience.
> >          Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a
> >          good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous
> >          marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of
> >          human interface, a software division, coming from someone who
> >          used to make toilet seats. The only one or ones I can trust
> >          in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers
> >          presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have
> >          enough say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical
> >          transition animation style crap instead of truly clean,
> >          efficient and snappy interfaces.
> > 
> >          3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what.
> >          Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be
> >          part of the process of creating real interfaces for everyone.
> >          It’s frustrating to know that most companies follow what is
> >          standard and forget that standards are meant to be broken and
> >          updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s
> >          broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying
> >          a 3000 dollar piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and
> >          moments where you want to throw that damn thing out the
> >          window and never touch it again is clearly not what I call
> >          good experience on a computer. More and more of my friends,
> >          mac users, both sighted and visually impaired, agree with me
> >          that apple is starting to rot in terms of presenting it’s
> >          image. It’s not an underdog but a huge bulky oil tanker that
> >          can now only manuver slowly with a battalion of lawyers
> >          behind murmuring at the chief’s ears, the latter being
> >          probably more complacent than should be, thus giving us this
> >          weird awkward show each year now with a barely straight
> >          talking TIm Cook who sounds like he never had a girl friend
> >          chill time or something seems amiss in him. Some soul?
> >          Something. Whatever the case, I don’t really dig the style
> >          apple is portraying. It’s becoming a disney world
> >          presentation with oooohs and aaahs when the tech behind is
> >          quite literally lagging. No visionary stuff, when this
> >          qualification should by now, from all the sci fi, the
> >          research and the graduations of bright people, should lead us
> >          much farther in terms of actual interaction with a computer,
> >          and let’s not forget screen readers.
> > 
> >          Anyway, off for my morning coffee. Have a great day yall
> > 
> >          Yuma Antoine Decaux
> > 
> >          "Light has no value without darkness"
> > 
> >          Mob: +612102277190
> > 
> >          Skype: Shainobi1
> > 
> >          twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7
> > 
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