There are Braille display issues as well. I am awaiting the day when we can 
type normally on the display, and not have the device lock up if you are a fast 
Brailler. 
God bless.
Matthew Dierckens
Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
U.S. number: 573-401-1018
Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com

> On Mar 28, 2015, at 11:10, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  It was certainly broken when 8.0 was initially released for sure.  As they 
> have updated the software, there have been bug fixes.  There are still 
> Bluetooth keyboard problems and a few strange navigation issues still 
> present.  However, my understanding is that 8.3 has specific VoiceOver bug 
> fixes in it.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
> Tel, (631) 724-4479
> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
> 
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> 
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> 
>> On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:49 AM, mário navarro <mario....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> shut your mouth silly!
>> everything is still unresolved ...
>> think first before you talk...
>> 
>> cheers.
>> Em 28/03/2015 03:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu:
>>> Whatever people.  I'm telling you that Apple did break it, yes, but that is 
>>> the key word... Did!
>>> 
>>> Things work very well now, and if you don't believe me, tell me what you 
>>> had an issue with, and I'll make an audio demo showing it's been fixed.  
>>> Maybe then, you'll believe me.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> ---
>>> Check out my web site at:
>>> http://www.clgproductions.net
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Pamela Francis
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
>>> 
>>> I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer 
>>> in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, "Jon Solitro" <jon.soli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I 
>>> found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I 
>>> update, or can I expect slower operation?
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to 
>>> say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than 
>>> on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like 
>>> slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started 
>>> looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too 
>>> much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and 
>>> do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some 
>>> mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 
>>> tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band 
>>> pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars 
>>> for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. 
>>> Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans 
>>> aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an 
>>> apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future.
>>> 
>>> Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who 
>>> want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic 
>>> things:
>>> 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple 
>>> makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or 
>>> app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way 
>>> around.
>>> 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively 
>>> create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction 
>>> of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving 
>>> us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy 
>>> with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software 
>>> division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one 
>>> or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger engineers 
>>> presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough say yet, 
>>> so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation style 
>>> crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces.
>>> 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I 
>>> wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of 
>>> creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know that most 
>>> companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to be 
>>> broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s 
>>> broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 dollar 
>>> piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and moments where you want to 
>>> throw that damn thing out the window and never touch it again is clearly 
>>> not what I call good experience on a computer. More and more of my friends, 
>>> mac users, both sighted and visually impaired, agree with me that apple is 
>>> starting to rot in terms of presenting it’s image. It’s not an underdog but 
>>> a huge bulky oil tanker that can now only manuver slowly with a battalion 
>>> of lawyers behind murmuring at the chief’s ears, the latter being probably 
>>> more complacent than should be, thus giving us this weird awkward show each 
>>> year now with a barely straight talking TIm Cook who sounds like he never 
>>> had a girl friend chill time or something seems amiss in him. Some soul? 
>>> Something. Whatever the case, I don’t really dig the style apple is 
>>> portraying. It’s becoming a disney world presentation with oooohs and aaahs 
>>> when the tech behind is quite literally lagging. No visionary stuff, when 
>>> this qualification should by now, from all the sci fi, the research and the 
>>> graduations of bright people, should lead us much farther in terms of 
>>> actual interaction with a computer, and let’s not forget screen readers.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, off for my morning coffee. Have a great day yall 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yuma Antoine Decaux
>>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>>> Mob: +612102277190
>>> Skype: Shainobi1
>>> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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