Amen to that! I love my Braille display and was rather disappointed when I  
couldn't use it properly, but I'll keep installing updates in the hopes they're 
fixing it!

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> On Mar 28, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Matthew Dierckens <matt.dierck...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> There are Braille display issues as well. I am awaiting the day when we can 
> type normally on the display, and not have the device lock up if you are a 
> fast Brailler. 
> God bless.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Certified Assistive Technology Specialist
> Macintosh, Windows and IOS  Trainer
> U.S. number: 573-401-1018
> Personal Email: matt.dierck...@me.com
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2015, at 11:10, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  It was certainly broken when 8.0 was initially released for sure.  As they 
>> have updated the software, there have been bug fixes.  There are still 
>> Bluetooth keyboard problems and a few strange navigation issues still 
>> present.  However, my understanding is that 8.3 has specific VoiceOver bug 
>> fixes in it.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>> 
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>> Lion
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:49 AM, mário navarro <mario....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> shut your mouth silly!
>>> everything is still unresolved ...
>>> think first before you talk...
>>> 
>>> cheers.
>>> Em 28/03/2015 03:06, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu:
>>>> Whatever people.  I'm telling you that Apple did break it, yes, but that 
>>>> is the key word... Did!
>>>> 
>>>> Things work very well now, and if you don't believe me, tell me what you 
>>>> had an issue with, and I'll make an audio demo showing it's been fixed.  
>>>> Maybe then, you'll believe me.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
>>>> ---
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>>>> http://www.clgproductions.net
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Pamela Francis
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:48 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
>>>> 
>>>> I too have an Ipad 2. No way would I put IOS 8 on it. I am a firm believer 
>>>> in if it isn't broken don't fix it. Apple broke it.
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 27, 2015 12:53 PM, "Jon Solitro" <jon.soli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I 
>>>> found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I 
>>>> update, or can I expect slower operation?
>>>> 
>>>> On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to 
>>>> say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than 
>>>> on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang 
>>>> like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have 
>>>> started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge 
>>>> things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you 
>>>> should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was 
>>>> camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, 
>>>> and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t 
>>>> want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 
>>>> 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the 
>>>> other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s 
>>>> midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that 
>>>> when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future.
>>>> 
>>>> Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you 
>>>> who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic 
>>>> things:
>>>> 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple 
>>>> makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production 
>>>> or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way 
>>>> around.
>>>> 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively 
>>>> create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction 
>>>> of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving 
>>>> us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy 
>>>> with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, a software 
>>>> division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The only one 
>>>> or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger 
>>>> engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough 
>>>> say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation 
>>>> style crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces.
>>>> 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea what. Sometimes I 
>>>> wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of the process of 
>>>> creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to know that most 
>>>> companies follow what is standard and forget that standards are meant to 
>>>> be broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. If it’s 
>>>> broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 
>>>> dollar piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and moments where you 
>>>> want to throw that damn thing out the window and never touch it again is 
>>>> clearly not what I call good experience on a computer. More and more of my 
>>>> friends, mac users, both sighted and visually impaired, agree with me that 
>>>> apple is starting to rot in terms of presenting it’s image. It’s not an 
>>>> underdog but a huge bulky oil tanker that can now only manuver slowly with 
>>>> a battalion of lawyers behind murmuring at the chief’s ears, the latter 
>>>> being probably more complacent than should be, thus giving us this weird 
>>>> awkward show each year now with a barely straight talking TIm Cook who 
>>>> sounds like he never had a girl friend chill time or something seems amiss 
>>>> in him. Some soul? Something. Whatever the case, I don’t really dig the 
>>>> style apple is portraying. It’s becoming a disney world presentation with 
>>>> oooohs and aaahs when the tech behind is quite literally lagging. No 
>>>> visionary stuff, when this qualification should by now, from all the sci 
>>>> fi, the research and the graduations of bright people, should lead us much 
>>>> farther in terms of actual interaction with a computer, and let’s not 
>>>> forget screen readers.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, off for my morning coffee. Have a great day yall 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yuma Antoine Decaux
>>>> "Light has no value without darkness"
>>>> Mob: +612102277190
>>>> Skype: Shainobi1
>>>> twitter: http://www.twitter.com/triple7
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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