hi will do, will test it on a macbook pro running SL mike On Oct 23, 2009, at 3:53 PM, KehzaFox wrote:
> > You can try the Webstart version at http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html > > Please let me know your experiences with it, even if it ranges to "I > want to throw it out the window". > > Jeff > > michael A. Babcock wrote: >> hi; >> where can one get this app from to test out? for muds i to the >> following >> open terminal >> type "telnet" >> type "o" >> type the url, example: "trekgames.net 1234" >> hit return >> and it connects. >> mike >> On Oct 23, 2009, at 2:32 PM, KehzaFox wrote: >> >>> Well, that's definitely not off to a good start, and needless to >>> say a >>> little disappointing! >>> >>> Following Java's standards the buttons (at least on the World >>> Connector) >>> I have not only labelled the buttons but added an additional >>> Accessible >>> Name and Accessible Description which (in theory) are to be used by >>> screen readers. >>> >>> How slow the client appears to you is also a bit troubling. My >>> intention is to load up the client on my wife's Macbook and see if I >>> can >>> sort things out. >>> >>> Thanks for trying out JamochaMUD, and hopefully I can get these >>> problems >>> ironed out. >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>> Tiger is even more of a disaster. Am on the world conecter now, >>>> but >>>> it's not accepting input, just saying "java busy.Have been at this >>>> for an hour now, I think if it's this slow an agressive mob would >>>> have me killed 20 times over. >>>> " >>>> On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:34 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>> >>>>> the buttons are not labeled so when one runs the program they dont >>>>> know what to click >>>>> >>>>> On 23 Oct 2009, at 12:29, KehzaFox wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Anouk, >>>>>> >>>>>> I released a new version of the JamochaMUD MUD Client a little >>>>>> while >>>>>> back where I've been working on incorporating accessibility >>>>>> features. >>>>>> If folks are willing to give me feedback such as "this works, >>>>>> this >>>>>> doesn't work", "I can't add a character" or specific items like >>>>>> that I >>>>>> can definitely work toward making the client as accessible as >>>>>> possible. >>>>>> >>>>>> You should be able to try the new version straight from your web >>>>>> browser >>>>>> by using the WebStart option ( at >>>>>> http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html ). >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm always looking for feedback to make the client better. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jeff >>>>>> >>>>>> a radix wrote: >>>>>>> Hello, I think that a lot of people would be interested in a mud >>>>>>> client for >>>>>>> the mac that works with snow leopard and that has some of the >>>>>>> features we >>>>>>> come to expect from a modern client. I myself would not even >>>>>>> mind >>>>>>> having to >>>>>>> pay for it. Are there no people with some programming >>>>>>> knowledge in >>>>>>> cocoa >>>>>>> that could program it or maybe we could 'rent'some experienced >>>>>>> tech >>>>>>> guy in >>>>>>> the sighted mac community who would be willing to do it... I >>>>>>> mean I >>>>>>> know at >>>>>>> least 4 mac users who really would love a good mud client for >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> mac and I >>>>>>> am certain its possible too, if there is this piece of >>>>>>> software. I >>>>>>> cant >>>>>>> imagine that there are no sighted people anymore that play muds >>>>>>> either.... >>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Nicolai Svendsen" <chojiro1...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:03 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Definitely quite an interesting story. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I >>>>>>>> went to >>>>>>>> an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to >>>>>>>> try it >>>>>>>> out. >>>>>>>> I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an >>>>>>>> institute >>>>>>>> for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was >>>>>>>> quite >>>>>>>> literally a pile of crap. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have >>>>>>>> done >>>>>>>> for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I >>>>>>>> finally >>>>>>>> decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become >>>>>>>> extremely >>>>>>>> frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always >>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>> my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of >>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>> things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>> to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously >>>>>>>> installed >>>>>>>> applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. >>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>> headache. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I decided to take the plunge. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I >>>>>>>> went >>>>>>>> back >>>>>>>> to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd >>>>>>>> mostly >>>>>>>> be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to >>>>>>>> try it >>>>>>>> out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It >>>>>>>> definitely >>>>>>>> was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a >>>>>>>> showroom >>>>>>>> floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off >>>>>>>> thoroughly, >>>>>>>> wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was >>>>>>>> happy. So >>>>>>>> very happy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I >>>>>>>> almost >>>>>>>> rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get >>>>>>>> out my >>>>>>>> shiny Macbook and hook it up. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh no! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't >>>>>>>> care. I >>>>>>>> didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to >>>>>>>> advertise. So >>>>>>>> i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the >>>>>>>> installation >>>>>>>> DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. >>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>> displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. Literally. So I >>>>>>>> decided >>>>>>>> that apparently wasn't working for whatever reason. I located >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> installer DVD in the finder and open it. Authentication. God >>>>>>>> dang >>>>>>>> it! >>>>>>>> Behold the password box. I was required to enter a password to >>>>>>>> proceed. Of course, the Macbook had not been set to require a >>>>>>>> password >>>>>>>> at login. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I call them at the store, and ask them for a password. I told >>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> C-key solution had not worked to boot from the DVD, and they >>>>>>>> promptly >>>>>>>> complied with my request. They gave me several passwords to >>>>>>>> enter, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> I did. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "The name or password you entered is incorrect." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I went back to the store, and they had a look at it. Most >>>>>>>> annoying >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> all was that finally, the C-key actually seemed to work. I was >>>>>>>> installing it when I got home. By this point, I was like a >>>>>>>> kid on >>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>> birthday. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I thought I'd share my experience with all of you on the list. >>>>>>>> Yes, I >>>>>>>> am aware it's probably quite long-winded. But what can you do? >>>>>>>> I do >>>>>>>> run Windows as a virtual machine, but only to MUD. I do >>>>>>>> sometimes >>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>> it kind of annoying having to run two programs just to scan and >>>>>>>> recognize the image. That is why I liked Omnipage, and there >>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>> to be >>>>>>>> a solution out there that does exactly the same. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As for my web browsing experience, everything is much more >>>>>>>> smooth >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> responsive. I can easily find what I want by using the search >>>>>>>> feature >>>>>>>> in VoiceOver, and ever since Leopard was released the web rotor >>>>>>>> makes >>>>>>>> it even easier, not to mention Auto web spots. So yes, I do use >>>>>>>> Windows. Rarely, but I do. And I'm definitely not ashamed to >>>>>>>> admit >>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>> But if a MUD client was accessible to VoiceOver, I would not >>>>>>>> touch >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> again. I've found my experience with Mac has not only been >>>>>>>> productive, >>>>>>>> but fun and enjoyable where as with Windows, I wanted to throw >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> machine through the window half the time I was using it due to >>>>>>>> freezes, driver errors and so-forth. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, I think I'm done now. I want an iPhone, now that you >>>>>>>> mention >>>>>>>> it, >>>>>>>> but at the same time you don't always need to have the latest >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> greatest. And I need to realize that. :P. Yes, I loved the >>>>>>>> iPhone >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> I'm used to the gestures since I use my trackpad quite a lot, >>>>>>>> but at >>>>>>>> the same time, I need a phone for text messaging and phone >>>>>>>> calls. >>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>> is about it. It'll probably be faster to accomplish those tasks >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> the iPhone, I have no doubt about it. Maybe one day I'll even >>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>> one. >>>>>>>> But when I find a really good reason except for all the apps >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> seemingly install with no issues, perfectly usable, then I >>>>>>>> won't >>>>>>>> buy >>>>>>>> one. Besides, who wants to pay $99.95 for an iPhone plan in >>>>>>>> Denmark? >>>>>>>> Not me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have a great afternoon, folks. I at least know those living in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> Eastern timezone are approaching lunch time. :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Nic >>>>>>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>>>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>>>>>>> AIM: cincinster >>>>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>>>>>>> Facebook Profile >>>>>>>> My Twitter >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I Thought I'd weigh in here, since I got my Mac around the >>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>> almost, I'm going on three months now. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I agree with Anouk, and would add that I often find it's >>>>>>>>> easier to >>>>>>>>> use my PC for work-related tasks. As I mentioned earlier, I >>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> ap Blackboard, which I have to use Windows for, as Safari >>>>>>>>> isn't >>>>>>>>> currently supported.. Since I'm logged into Blackboard most >>>>>>>>> days, >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> sort of automatically means I'm using my PC, and the Mac gets >>>>>>>>> relegated to after-hours. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I also still strongly prefer web-browsing on my PC. I've >>>>>>>>> had so >>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>> experiences where on the Mac I simply cannot locate an item >>>>>>>>> that I >>>>>>>>> know is on a certain page. This never happens to me on the >>>>>>>>> PC. I >>>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>>> that when browsing, I can do things in half the time on my PC, >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> sometimes on the Mac, even after spending the extra time, I >>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>>> what I'm looking for, and end up going back to the PC anyway. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm an avid reader, and so do a lot of scanning. I really >>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> the idea of having to use two separate programs, one for >>>>>>>>> scanning >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> one for the OCR, especially when I have one program on my PC >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>> do both jobs quite nicely. This of course isn't an Apple >>>>>>>>> issue, >>>>>>>>> but I >>>>>>>>> do think that for many of us who are blind, the lack of a good >>>>>>>>> solid >>>>>>>>> scanning/ocr option, is a real obstacle in terms of seeing the >>>>>>>>> Mac as >>>>>>>>> a PC replacement. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Like Anouk, I've also pretty much decided to keep both a Mac >>>>>>>>> and a >>>>>>>>> PC. at least for now, though I confess I'm tempted some >>>>>>>>> days to >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> go back to my PC, in the interest of running just one OS on >>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>> computer. When I got my Mac, I had hoped not to upgrade to >>>>>>>>> JAWS 11 >>>>>>>>> and Windows 7, but it looks like I'll be getting both. I use >>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>> PC for >>>>>>>>> work, for scanning, and for most of my web browsing, which is >>>>>>>>> 90% >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> what I do. I like the Mac a lot. I like that VO is built >>>>>>>>> in, I >>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> the speed and responsiveness of the Mac, I like the fact >>>>>>>>> that it >>>>>>>>> doesn't take a year to boot or load an ap, and I like working >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> Itunes (I'm still running 8.2.), and I think the Mac seems >>>>>>>>> to be >>>>>>>>> far >>>>>>>>> superior in how it works with Media. But the PC is what I go >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> the things I really need to get done. I think for me, my >>>>>>>>> experience >>>>>>>>> with the Mac reflects my experience with the iphone. When I >>>>>>>>> compare >>>>>>>>> my iphone with my old Windows Mobile phone, the iphone is much >>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>> fun! I love the aps, the games, the ability to quickly do >>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>> check weather, whereas my WM phone was loaded with all kinds >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> practical stuff for editing documents spreadsheets, >>>>>>>>> powerpoint, >>>>>>>>> and so >>>>>>>>> on. I don't want to do any of that stuff on my phone, so for >>>>>>>>> me, >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> iphone is by far the better fit. but when it comes to a >>>>>>>>> computer, it >>>>>>>>> cuts the other way, and I find myself favoring the PC which >>>>>>>>> seems >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> lend itself more to the day-to-day things I need to get done. >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:05 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi again folks, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, broadcasts can certainly be done. Nicecast from Rogue >>>>>>>>>> Amoeba >>>>>>>>>> http://rogueamoeba.com >>>>>>>>>> works extremely well. The only issue seems to be the effects >>>>>>>>>> scroll >>>>>>>>>> area, but I hope they'll be working on that. Otherwise, it >>>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>> ridiculously well, in fact, and I have nothing to complain >>>>>>>>>> about. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not exactly sure about your Thumbkey thing. I don't get >>>>>>>>>> it. If >>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>> can elaborate? Maybe I'm being dense here. :). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As for VLC, I've never actually tried it out, and I >>>>>>>>>> personally >>>>>>>>>> love >>>>>>>>>> using Safari for web browsing. For me, everything is much >>>>>>>>>> faster. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, which braille display are you using? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Nic >>>>>>>>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>>>>>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>>>>>>>>> AIM: cincinster >>>>>>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>>>>>>>>> Facebook Profile >>>>>>>>>> My Twitter >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi again. >>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Echomac, never heard of it but when I google it I found >>>>>>>>>>> http://echomac.sourceforge.net/ >>>>>>>>>>> I'll try it when I'm back home from work. >>>>>>>>>>> Anouk, I had a fire dtv reciever and used it with dvb viewer >>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> windows and Eye tv have driver for it so I gave it a try but >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> doesn't work as I want at the moment. >>>>>>>>>>> I have readiris on the disk and I'm going to try it out and >>>>>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> works with swedish language and so on. >>>>>>>>>>> I have heard of some broadcast tools for mac but at the >>>>>>>>>>> moment I >>>>>>>>>>> haven't looked in to it. I don't broadcast at the moment >>>>>>>>>>> so it >>>>>>>>>>> doesn't >>>>>>>>>>> have so high priority. I still have my studio pc sitting >>>>>>>>>>> under >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> desk so I can use stationplaylist and all the broadcast >>>>>>>>>>> stuff >>>>>>>>>>> if I >>>>>>>>>>> want to. >>>>>>>>>>> Regards Tony >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2009/10/21, a radix <anou...@home.nl>: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Tony, Nice to hear from you! (the world is a small >>>>>>>>>>>> place) >>>>>>>>>>>> Funny >>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>> started our mac journey at the seem time. I am curious, can >>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>> broadcast on >>>>>>>>>>>> the mac? I guess otsjuke wont work and obiously shoutcast >>>>>>>>>>>> wont >>>>>>>>>>>> either. I was >>>>>>>>>>>> thinking of running windows with vmware but now I am just >>>>>>>>>>>> thinking >>>>>>>>>>>> to ask my >>>>>>>>>>>> brother to help me install windows 7 via bootcamp instead. >>>>>>>>>>>> Has >>>>>>>>>>>> anyone got >>>>>>>>>>>> experience with installing windows via bootcamp as dual >>>>>>>>>>>> boot? >>>>>>>>>>>> Is it >>>>>>>>>>>> diffucult? I presume the drivers for windows 7 for the >>>>>>>>>>>> macbook >>>>>>>>>>>> pro >>>>>>>>>>>> will be >>>>>>>>>>>> available from apple? I still want to try vuescan an >>>>>>>>>>>> dreadiris, in >>>>>>>>>>>> fact i >>>>>>>>>>>> have the programs on my computer bu tI want to wait till hp >>>>>>>>>>>> releases the >>>>>>>>>>>> drivers for my scanner that are native to sl, also I hope >>>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>> time abbyy >>>>>>>>>>>> will have released a demo of finereader for the mac that is >>>>>>>>>>>> native >>>>>>>>>>>> to sl. I >>>>>>>>>>>> am just concerned that either adf wont work, scanning >>>>>>>>>>>> iwll be >>>>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>>>> slow or >>>>>>>>>>>> dutch character recognition wont be as good as omnipage. >>>>>>>>>>>> I am surprised that you also have the thumbkey problem, i >>>>>>>>>>>> thought >>>>>>>>>>>> it was >>>>>>>>>>>> something stupid on my part, corrupt install whatever. I >>>>>>>>>>>> guess >>>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>> will both >>>>>>>>>>>> have to mail apple accessibility about this. >>>>>>>>>>>> So, you are using a tv tuner with your mac? This is the >>>>>>>>>>>> next >>>>>>>>>>>> thing >>>>>>>>>>>> i want to >>>>>>>>>>>> taccle since now I have an analog tv standing on my desk >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> it is >>>>>>>>>>>> taking up >>>>>>>>>>>> space that I could use otherwise. I did have digital tv in >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> past >>>>>>>>>>>> bu tI >>>>>>>>>>>> had a lot of trouble with it and in the end just went >>>>>>>>>>>> back to >>>>>>>>>>>> analog. There >>>>>>>>>>>> are not that many tuners for the mac I think (analog or >>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise) >>>>>>>>>>>> and I >>>>>>>>>>>> guess even less that are available in Europe. Which do you >>>>>>>>>>>> use? I >>>>>>>>>>>> guess as >>>>>>>>>>>> long as I get one with a remote things will be ok (if it >>>>>>>>>>>> indeed can >>>>>>>>>>>> find the >>>>>>>>>>>> channels). >>>>>>>>>>>> I too LOVE the sleep features of the mac, i never turn mine >>>>>>>>>>>> off, >>>>>>>>>>>> just close >>>>>>>>>>>> the lid and thats it. >>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk, >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Tony Bernedal" <t...@bernedal.net> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:16 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Anouk. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like >>>>>>>>>>>>> you I >>>>>>>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>>>>>>> use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the >>>>>>>>>>>>> scanning >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage >>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>> to do >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf >>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>> a no >>>>>>>>>>>>> longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a >>>>>>>>>>>>> virtual >>>>>>>>>>>>> machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> virtual >>>>>>>>>>>>> machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, >>>>>>>>>>>>> wich >>>>>>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>>>>> ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the >>>>>>>>>>>>> software >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows >>>>>>>>>>>>> programs. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>> very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow >>>>>>>>>>>>> leopard my >>>>>>>>>>>>> problems with it is gone. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be >>>>>>>>>>>>> solved. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> have same issue with alva satelite. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd >>>>>>>>>>>>> reason >>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>>>>> tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies >>>>>>>>>>>>> and it >>>>>>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>>>>> great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and >>>>>>>>>>>>> linux >>>>>>>>>>>>> at all >>>>>>>>>>>>> with screenreader, only on mac, great!). >>>>>>>>>>>>> And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at >>>>>>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>>>>> take >>>>>>>>>>>>> forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. >>>>>>>>>>>>> And, >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> sleep >>>>>>>>>>>>> works well too. >>>>>>>>>>>>> So I'm happy with my mac system. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck with your mac! >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards Tony >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/10/21, a radix <anou...@home.nl>: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now >>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> school >>>>>>>>>>>>>> although at home I still often use my pc and I will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> explain >>>>>>>>>>>>>> below >>>>>>>>>>>>>> why. In >>>>>>>>>>>>>> general my experiences with the mac have been very >>>>>>>>>>>>>> positive >>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>>>>>>>> after >>>>>>>>>>>>>> installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> well as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead >>>>>>>>>>>>>> watching >>>>>>>>>>>>>> movies >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought >>>>>>>>>>>>>> apples >>>>>>>>>>>>>> office suite >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I prefer that over using textedit or the free >>>>>>>>>>>>>> text >>>>>>>>>>>>>> editors/office >>>>>>>>>>>>>> suits that are available. I am also intending to go and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>>>>>>> garage band >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the future if I can get that working with my yamaha >>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening >>>>>>>>>>>>>> through >>>>>>>>>>>>>> its sound >>>>>>>>>>>>>> output with my own in ear monitors is nothing special. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>>>>>>>> find using >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the internet on the mac a bit mor ework then i did while >>>>>>>>>>>>>> using my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pc and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> goes a bit slower also when reading docucments i notice >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot >>>>>>>>>>>>>> endlessly use the right thumb key on my braille display >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually i have to press the right arrow on my normal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard >>>>>>>>>>>>>> if I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to read onm. This does become irritating after a while if >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> read >>>>>>>>>>>>>> long documents. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> At home I still mostly use my windows pc although i now >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gotten mail >>>>>>>>>>>>>> working on the mac as well because 1. I use omnipage >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pro 16 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> under >>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scan my books for school, while I know that there are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scanning >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solutions for the mac that i will probbably try once >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hp >>>>>>>>>>>>>> drivers for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sl >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been released I just dont know if they will be as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> easy as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> using omnipage pro 16 and am a bit hesistant to try it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that (I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> really really hope that a full version of finereader will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> released for the mac since I have heard it can rival >>>>>>>>>>>>>> omnipage >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pro). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secondly there is filesharing, i will be brief. Ftp does >>>>>>>>>>>>>> work on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mac >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with transmit which I rather like although I have not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> registered >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it yet, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions i asked its support team went unanswered. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usenet >>>>>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>>>>> works but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> udner windows I preferred to use other programs which are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> available >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mac. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The third point is playing games which I do a lot on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pec >>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>>>>>>>> interactive fiction and muds. There is an interpreter for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> interactive >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fiction called zoom which I tried and although I can open >>>>>>>>>>>>>> games >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> saved games were a problem for me since I could not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> open a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> saved >>>>>>>>>>>>>> game >>>>>>>>>>>>>> file >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (made in frotz). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For muds the situation on the mac is not so good, I play >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them all >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on windows but there is only one mudclient that I know of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>>>>>> under >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sl and which is still being developed, jamochamud which >>>>>>>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>>>>>> under java. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not too accessible at the moment but the programmer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>>>> promised to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> look >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at it, still it does not offer all the features even then >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> am used >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a windows client. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As soon as windows 7 becomes officially available I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>> planning >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> install >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it on my mac (probbably via bootcamp) so that I at least >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my mac >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the time even if I need to use windows, hopefully for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> scanning and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloading tasks I will in the future be able to use the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mac and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopes for muds as well but for now at least my mac is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mostly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> used >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> school >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and in the library. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk, >>>> >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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