Tiger is even more of a disaster.  Am on the world conecter now, but  
it's not accepting input, just saying "java busy.Have been at this  
for an hour now, I think if it's this slow an agressive mob would  
have me killed 20 times over.
"
On Oct 23, 2009, at 7:34 AM, william lomas wrote:

>
> the buttons are not labeled so when one runs the program they dont
> know what to click
>
> On 23 Oct 2009, at 12:29, KehzaFox wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Anouk,
>>
>> I released a new version of the JamochaMUD MUD Client a little while
>> back where I've been working on incorporating accessibility features.
>> If folks are willing to give me feedback such as "this works, this
>> doesn't work", "I can't add a character" or specific items like  
>> that I
>> can definitely work toward making the client as accessible as
>> possible.
>>
>> You should be able to try the new version straight from your web
>> browser
>> by using the WebStart option ( at
>> http://www.jamochamud.org/downloads.html ).
>>
>> I'm always looking for feedback to make the client better.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> a radix wrote:
>>> Hello, I think that a lot of people would be interested in a mud
>>> client for
>>> the mac that works with snow leopard and that has some of the
>>> features we
>>> come to expect from a modern client. I myself would not even mind
>>> having to
>>> pay for it. Are there no people with some programming knowledge in
>>> cocoa
>>> that could program it or maybe we could 'rent'some experienced tech
>>> guy in
>>> the sighted mac community who would be willing to do it... I mean I
>>> know at
>>> least 4 mac users who really would love a good mud client for the
>>> mac and I
>>> am certain its possible too, if there is this piece of software. I
>>> cant
>>> imagine that there are no sighted people anymore that play muds
>>> either....
>>> Greetings, Anouk
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Nicolai Svendsen" <chojiro1...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:03 PM
>>> Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Definitely quite an interesting story.
>>>>
>>>> I got my Mac on August 1. It was actually an odd experience. I
>>>> went to
>>>> an Apple store a couple weeks prior to my purchase just to try it
>>>> out.
>>>> I had attempted to use OS X 10.4, Tiger in the past at an institute
>>>> for the blind, but I actually didn't like it. I thought it was  
>>>> quite
>>>> literally a pile of crap.
>>>>
>>>> I start listening to podcasts that sighted and blind users have  
>>>> done
>>>> for the Macintosh, and figure I'll give it another shot. I finally
>>>> decided to purchase a Mac, because I had frankly become extremely
>>>> frustrated with Windows and most certainly Vista. XP has always  
>>>> been
>>>> my favorite if I do have to use Windows. I'd become tired of how
>>>> many
>>>> things you needed for Windows to work efficiently. Sometimes you  
>>>> had
>>>> to worry about corrupted files, leftovers from previously installed
>>>> applications, that sort of thing not to mention the registry. The
>>>> headache.
>>>>
>>>> So I decided to take the plunge.
>>>>
>>>> I read through the entire VoiceOver manual the day before I went
>>>> back
>>>> to the store, and wrote down notes for the things I figured I'd
>>>> mostly
>>>> be using for a while. When I arrived at the store, I went to try it
>>>> out again to make sure a Mac would be what I desired. It definitely
>>>> was. So much that, in fact, that even though they only had a
>>>> showroom
>>>> floor model at the time, I grabbed it. The cleaned it off
>>>> thoroughly,
>>>> wrapped it up and tossed the DVDs I'd need in the box. I was
>>>> happy. So
>>>> very happy.
>>>>
>>>> I arrive home, and I'm practically tingling with excitement. I
>>>> almost
>>>> rip the box apart (taking care of the DVDs of course), get out my
>>>> shiny Macbook and hook it up.
>>>>
>>>> Oh no!
>>>>
>>>> What I did know was that I had to reinstall it, but I didn't  
>>>> care. I
>>>> didn't want any of that junk on it they had installed to
>>>> advertise. So
>>>> i went ahead. I rebooted it, held down the C-key when the
>>>> installation
>>>> DVD had been sucked into the Mac and I heard the startup sound. It
>>>> displayed the finder and spat out the DVD. Literally. So I decided
>>>> that apparently wasn't working for whatever reason. I located the
>>>> installer DVD in the finder and open it. Authentication. God dang
>>>> it!
>>>> Behold the password box. I was required to enter a password to
>>>> proceed. Of course, the Macbook had not been set to require a
>>>> password
>>>> at login.
>>>>
>>>> I call them at the store, and ask them for a password. I told them
>>>> the
>>>> C-key solution had not worked to boot from the DVD, and they
>>>> promptly
>>>> complied with my request. They gave me several passwords to enter,
>>>> and
>>>> I did.
>>>>
>>>> "The name or password you entered is incorrect."
>>>>
>>>> I went back to the store, and they had a look at it. Most annoying
>>>> of
>>>> all was that finally, the C-key actually seemed to work. I was
>>>> installing it when I got home. By this point, I was like a kid on
>>>> his
>>>> birthday.
>>>>
>>>> I thought I'd share my experience with all of you on the list.
>>>> Yes, I
>>>> am aware it's probably quite long-winded. But what can you do? I do
>>>> run Windows as a virtual machine, but only to MUD. I do sometimes
>>>> find
>>>> it kind of annoying having to run two programs just to scan and
>>>> recognize the image. That is why I liked Omnipage, and there has
>>>> to be
>>>> a solution out there that does exactly the same.
>>>>
>>>> As for my web browsing experience, everything is much more smooth
>>>> and
>>>> responsive. I can easily find what I want by using the search
>>>> feature
>>>> in VoiceOver, and ever since Leopard was released the web rotor
>>>> makes
>>>> it even easier, not to mention Auto web spots. So yes, I do use
>>>> Windows. Rarely, but I do. And I'm definitely not ashamed to admit
>>>> it.
>>>> But if a MUD client was accessible to VoiceOver, I would not touch
>>>> it
>>>> again. I've found my experience with Mac has not only been
>>>> productive,
>>>> but fun and enjoyable where as with Windows, I wanted to throw the
>>>> machine through the window half the time I was using it due to
>>>> freezes, driver errors and so-forth.
>>>>
>>>> Well, I think I'm done now. I want an iPhone, now that you mention
>>>> it,
>>>> but at the same time you don't always need to have the latest and
>>>> greatest. And I need to realize that. :P. Yes, I loved the iPhone
>>>> and
>>>> I'm used to the gestures since I use my trackpad quite a lot,  
>>>> but at
>>>> the same time, I need a phone for text messaging and phone calls.
>>>> That
>>>> is about it. It'll probably be faster to accomplish those tasks  
>>>> with
>>>> the iPhone, I have no doubt about it. Maybe one day I'll even get
>>>> one.
>>>> But when I find a really good reason except for all the apps you  
>>>> can
>>>> seemingly install with no issues, perfectly usable, then I won't  
>>>> buy
>>>> one. Besides, who wants to pay $99.95 for an iPhone plan in  
>>>> Denmark?
>>>> Not me.
>>>>
>>>> Have a great afternoon, folks. I at least know those living in the
>>>> Eastern timezone are approaching lunch time. :)
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Nic
>>>> Skype: Kvalme
>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>>>> AIM: cincinster
>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>>>> Facebook Profile
>>>> My Twitter
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I Thought I'd weigh in here, since I got my Mac around the same
>>>>> time
>>>>> almost, I'm going on three months now.
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Anouk, and would add that I often find it's easier to
>>>>> use my PC for work-related tasks.  As I mentioned earlier, I use
>>>>> the
>>>>> ap Blackboard, which I have to use Windows for, as Safari isn't
>>>>> currently supported.. Since I'm logged into Blackboard most days,
>>>>> that
>>>>> sort of automatically means I'm using my PC, and the Mac gets
>>>>> relegated to after-hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also still strongly prefer web-browsing on my PC.  I've had so
>>>>> many
>>>>> experiences where on the Mac I simply cannot locate an item that I
>>>>> know is on a certain page.  This never happens to me on the PC. I
>>>>> find
>>>>> that when browsing, I can do things in half the time on my PC, and
>>>>> sometimes on the Mac, even after spending the extra time, I don't
>>>>> find
>>>>> what I'm looking for, and end up going back to the PC anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm an avid reader, and so do a lot of scanning. I really don't
>>>>> like
>>>>> the idea of having to use two separate programs, one for scanning
>>>>> and
>>>>> one for the OCR, especially when I have one program on my PC that
>>>>> will
>>>>> do both jobs quite nicely.  This of course isn't an Apple issue,
>>>>> but I
>>>>> do think that for many of us who are blind, the lack of a good
>>>>> solid
>>>>> scanning/ocr option, is a real obstacle in terms of seeing the
>>>>> Mac as
>>>>> a PC replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like Anouk, I've also pretty much decided to keep both a Mac and a
>>>>> PC.  at least for now, though I confess I'm tempted some days to
>>>>> just
>>>>> go back to my PC, in the interest of running just one OS on one
>>>>> computer.  When I got my Mac, I had hoped not to upgrade to  
>>>>> JAWS 11
>>>>> and Windows 7, but it looks like I'll be getting both. I use my
>>>>> PC for
>>>>> work, for scanning, and for most of my web browsing, which is 90%
>>>>> of
>>>>> what I do.  I like the Mac a lot.  I like that VO is built in, I
>>>>> like
>>>>> the speed and responsiveness of the Mac, I like the fact that it
>>>>> doesn't take a year to boot or load an ap, and I like working with
>>>>> Itunes (I'm still running 8.2.), and I think the Mac seems to be
>>>>> far
>>>>> superior in how it works with Media. But the PC is what I go to  
>>>>> for
>>>>> the things I really need to get done. I think for me, my  
>>>>> experience
>>>>> with the Mac reflects my experience with the iphone.  When I
>>>>> compare
>>>>> my iphone with my old Windows Mobile phone, the iphone is much  
>>>>> more
>>>>> fun! I love the aps, the games, the ability to quickly do things
>>>>> like
>>>>> check weather, whereas my WM phone was loaded with all kinds of
>>>>> practical stuff for editing documents spreadsheets, powerpoint,
>>>>> and so
>>>>> on.  I don't want to do any of that stuff on my phone, so for me,
>>>>> the
>>>>> iphone is by far the better fit.  but when it comes to a
>>>>> computer, it
>>>>> cuts the other way, and I find myself favoring the PC which seems
>>>>> to
>>>>> lend itself more to the day-to-day things I need to get done.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 5:05 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi again folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, broadcasts can certainly be done. Nicecast from Rogue Amoeba
>>>>>> http://rogueamoeba.com
>>>>>> works extremely well. The only issue seems to be the effects
>>>>>> scroll
>>>>>> area, but I hope they'll be working on that. Otherwise, it works
>>>>>> ridiculously well, in fact, and I have nothing to complain about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not exactly sure about your Thumbkey thing. I don't get  
>>>>>> it. If
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> can elaborate? Maybe I'm being dense here. :).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for VLC, I've never actually tried it out, and I personally
>>>>>> love
>>>>>> using Safari for web browsing. For me,  everything is much  
>>>>>> faster.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, which braille display are you using?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Nic
>>>>>> Skype: Kvalme
>>>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>>>>>> AIM: cincinster
>>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>>>>>> Facebook Profile
>>>>>> My Twitter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Tony Bernedal wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi again.
>>>>>>> Wow. Echomac, never heard of it but when I google it I found
>>>>>>> http://echomac.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>>> I'll try it when I'm back home from work.
>>>>>>> Anouk, I had a fire dtv reciever and used it with dvb viewer on
>>>>>>> windows and Eye tv have driver for it so I gave it a try but it
>>>>>>> doesn't work as I want at the moment.
>>>>>>> I have readiris on the disk and I'm going to try it out and see
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> works with swedish language and so on.
>>>>>>> I have heard of some broadcast tools for mac but at the moment I
>>>>>>> haven't looked in to it. I don't broadcast at the moment so it
>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>> have so high priority. I still have my studio pc sitting under
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> desk so I can use stationplaylist and all the broadcast stuff
>>>>>>> if I
>>>>>>> want to.
>>>>>>> Regards Tony
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/10/21, a radix <anou...@home.nl>:
>>>>>>>> Hey Tony, Nice to hear from you! (the world is a small place)
>>>>>>>> Funny
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> started our mac journey at the seem time. I am curious, can you
>>>>>>>> broadcast on
>>>>>>>> the mac? I guess otsjuke wont work and obiously shoutcast wont
>>>>>>>> either. I was
>>>>>>>> thinking of running windows with vmware but now I am just
>>>>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>> to ask my
>>>>>>>> brother to help me install windows 7 via bootcamp instead. Has
>>>>>>>> anyone got
>>>>>>>> experience with installing windows via bootcamp as dual boot?
>>>>>>>> Is it
>>>>>>>> diffucult? I presume the drivers for windows 7 for the macbook
>>>>>>>> pro
>>>>>>>> will be
>>>>>>>> available from apple? I still want to try vuescan an
>>>>>>>> dreadiris, in
>>>>>>>> fact i
>>>>>>>> have the programs on my computer bu tI want to wait till hp
>>>>>>>> releases the
>>>>>>>> drivers for my scanner that are native to sl, also I hope by
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> time abbyy
>>>>>>>> will have released a demo of finereader for the mac that is
>>>>>>>> native
>>>>>>>> to sl. I
>>>>>>>> am just concerned that either adf wont work, scanning iwll be
>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>> slow or
>>>>>>>> dutch character recognition wont be as good as omnipage.
>>>>>>>> I am surprised that you also have the thumbkey problem, i
>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>> it was
>>>>>>>> something stupid on my part, corrupt install whatever. I guess
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> will both
>>>>>>>> have to mail apple accessibility about this.
>>>>>>>> So, you are using a tv tuner with your mac? This is the next
>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>> i want to
>>>>>>>> taccle since now I have an analog tv standing on my desk and
>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>> taking up
>>>>>>>> space that I could use otherwise. I did have digital tv in the
>>>>>>>> past
>>>>>>>> bu tI
>>>>>>>> had a lot of trouble with it and in the end just went back to
>>>>>>>> analog. There
>>>>>>>> are not that many tuners for the mac I think (analog or
>>>>>>>> otherwise)
>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>> guess even less that are available in Europe. Which do you
>>>>>>>> use? I
>>>>>>>> guess as
>>>>>>>> long as I get one with a remote things will be ok (if it
>>>>>>>> indeed can
>>>>>>>> find the
>>>>>>>> channels).
>>>>>>>> I too LOVE the sleep features of the mac, i never turn mine  
>>>>>>>> off,
>>>>>>>> just close
>>>>>>>> the lid and thats it.
>>>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Tony Bernedal" <t...@bernedal.net>
>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:16 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: my 2 months with a mac
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Anouk.
>>>>>>>>> I have also used my mac for around 3 months now, and like  
>>>>>>>>> you I
>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>> use windows for a couple of things. I trying to get the
>>>>>>>>> scanning
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> ocr to work on the mac but for now windows and omnipage have
>>>>>>>>> to do
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> jobb. I had a license for windows xp lying on the shelf from
>>>>>>>>> a no
>>>>>>>>> longer working laptop and I installed xp with vmware as a
>>>>>>>>> virtual
>>>>>>>>> machine and doing my scanning there and it works good but the
>>>>>>>>> virtual
>>>>>>>>> machine is very slow. I also use windows for Echolink, wich
>>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>>> ham-radio software wich don't exist on the mac. Also the
>>>>>>>>> software
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> setup and program my hamradio stations is only windows
>>>>>>>>> programs.
>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>> very happy mac user now and after some updates to snow
>>>>>>>>> leopard my
>>>>>>>>> problems with it is gone.
>>>>>>>>> I hope the issue with the thumbkey on your display can be
>>>>>>>>> solved. I
>>>>>>>>> have same issue with alva satelite.
>>>>>>>>> I also have a battle with EyeTV software wich for some odd
>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>> doesn't find my tv channels on the cable network. And it is
>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>> tricky to use with VO. I use VLC for webradio and movies  
>>>>>>>>> and it
>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>> great (vlc version 1.x doesn't work under windows and linux
>>>>>>>>> at all
>>>>>>>>> with screenreader, only on mac, great!).
>>>>>>>>> And I also like the speed, starting my windows pc here at  
>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>> forever and the mac is at the desktop in almost 0 time. And,
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> sleep
>>>>>>>>> works well too.
>>>>>>>>> So I'm happy with my mac system.
>>>>>>>>> Good luck with your mac!
>>>>>>>>> Regards Tony
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2009/10/21, a radix <anou...@home.nl>:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello, I have been using my mac for about 2 months now
>>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>>>> although at home I still often use my pc and I will explain
>>>>>>>>>> below
>>>>>>>>>> why. In
>>>>>>>>>> general my experiences with the mac have been very positive
>>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>> installing snow leopard. I can use skype and msn just as
>>>>>>>>>> well as
>>>>>>>>>> on my
>>>>>>>>>> pc.
>>>>>>>>>> And after I dumped itunes and started using vlc instead
>>>>>>>>>> watching
>>>>>>>>>> movies
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> listening to music became a breeze. I recently bought apples
>>>>>>>>>> office suite
>>>>>>>>>> because I prefer that over using textedit or the free text
>>>>>>>>>> editors/office
>>>>>>>>>> suits that are available. I am also intending to go and use
>>>>>>>>>> garage band
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the future if I can get that working with my yamaha
>>>>>>>>>> keyboard. I
>>>>>>>>>> like the
>>>>>>>>>> built-in speakers and sound quality alhtough listening  
>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>> its sound
>>>>>>>>>> output with my own in ear monitors is nothing special. I  
>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>> find using
>>>>>>>>>> the internet on the mac a bit mor ework then i did while
>>>>>>>>>> using my
>>>>>>>>>> pc and
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> goes a bit slower also when reading docucments i notice  
>>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>>>>> endlessly use the right thumb key on my braille display to
>>>>>>>>>> continue
>>>>>>>>>> reading,
>>>>>>>>>> eventually i have to press the right arrow on my normal
>>>>>>>>>> keyboard
>>>>>>>>>> if I
>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>> to read onm. This does become irritating after a while if you
>>>>>>>>>> need to
>>>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>>>> long documents.
>>>>>>>>>> At home I still mostly use my windows pc although i now have
>>>>>>>>>> gotten mail
>>>>>>>>>> working on the mac as well because 1. I use omnipage pro 16
>>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>>> windows
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> scan my books for school, while I know that there are some
>>>>>>>>>> scanning
>>>>>>>>>> solutions for the mac that i will probbably try once the hp
>>>>>>>>>> drivers for
>>>>>>>>>> sl
>>>>>>>>>> have been released I just dont know if they will be as good
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> easy as
>>>>>>>>>> using omnipage pro 16 and am a bit hesistant to try it
>>>>>>>>>> because of
>>>>>>>>>> that (I
>>>>>>>>>> really really hope that a full version of finereader will
>>>>>>>>>> eventually be
>>>>>>>>>> released for the mac since I have heard it can rival omnipage
>>>>>>>>>> pro).
>>>>>>>>>> Secondly there is filesharing, i will be brief. Ftp does
>>>>>>>>>> work on
>>>>>>>>>> the mac
>>>>>>>>>> with transmit which I rather like although I have not
>>>>>>>>>> registered
>>>>>>>>>> it yet,
>>>>>>>>>> questions i asked its support team went unanswered. Usenet
>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>> works but
>>>>>>>>>> udner windows I preferred to use other programs which are not
>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> the mac.
>>>>>>>>>> The third point is playing games which I do a lot on the pec
>>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>>> interactive fiction and muds. There is an interpreter for
>>>>>>>>>> interactive
>>>>>>>>>> fiction called zoom which I tried and although I can open
>>>>>>>>>> games
>>>>>>>>>> with it
>>>>>>>>>> saved games were a problem for me since I could not open a
>>>>>>>>>> saved
>>>>>>>>>> game
>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>> (made in frotz).
>>>>>>>>>> For muds the situation on the mac is not so good, I play
>>>>>>>>>> them all
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>> on windows but there is only one mudclient that I know of
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>>> sl and which is still being developed, jamochamud which works
>>>>>>>>>> under java.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>> is not too accessible at the moment but the programmer has
>>>>>>>>>> promised to
>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>> at it, still it does not offer all the features even then
>>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>>> am used
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> on a windows client.
>>>>>>>>>> As soon as windows 7 becomes officially available I am
>>>>>>>>>> planning
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> install
>>>>>>>>>> it on my mac (probbably via bootcamp) so that I at least can
>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>> my mac
>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> the time even if I need to use windows, hopefully for the
>>>>>>>>>> scanning and
>>>>>>>>>> downloading tasks I will in the future be able to use the
>>>>>>>>>> mac and
>>>>>>>>>> I have
>>>>>>>>>> hopes for muds as well but for now at least my mac is mostly
>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> school
>>>>>>>>>> and in the library.
>>>>>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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