Chris,
You posted something that is way beyond the purpose of this list in my opinion. If you want to learn about employment opportunities, there are other resources that are right up your alley. This reply of yours is over the top.

You also might beefit from taking several business related courses in an accredited college. Could learn a great deal about business practices and why companies like Apple must keep some information internal.

From The Believer. . .
   By way of the Chariots of the
Gods cameth the Aliens who
dwelt amongst the humans,
and bringeth much knowledge.

On 3/19/2015 1:31 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Joanne, you make so many points in this e-mail that I'm going to literally 
address them one by one.  If you choose to not read my comments, that's your 
loss.

If One  has been  on the employment/business/corporate  field long enough, one 
will know that there are some things that are just, simply confidential, and 
not to share with anyone, internally or externally.

   OK, well, first of all, how do you know that I have been in the "Corporate 
field" for a long time?  You don't.

   It seems to me that, you just rang up someone at apple and started to ask 
questions about employment.

   Yeah?  So?  Is this a problem, and if so, why?

   To be honest, even employees from Google or Microsoft would not entertain 
you or give you any desire answers about it.

   Site your bibliography please, as I beg to differ.  We're not talking a 
government/military agency here.

   It is no different if i ramdomly ring up Google playstore customer centre,   
and start asking them how much they earn a year, what sort of things they do in 
a daily bases, and finally, can they send me their employment contract...

   Excuse me?  When in God's heaven did I say that I would ask such rude 
questions which are absolutely none of my business?!

   I called Apple Accessibility.  How do you ascertain that this was random, in 
your words?  I wanted to know about how to get hierred as an Accessibility 
Specialist.  Who better would know than the specialists themselves?  Therefore, 
I completely resent your question...  I'm sorry to say, that I don't have an 
idea where you get that this was random.  Perhaps you can enlighten me, because 
I'm missing something which should be apparently obvious here!

    Like it or not, it is a level of confidentiality and yes, if you like, 
secrecy within the job itself. That happens with most levels of employment, 
especially in an international company.


   I confess, I've never dealt with the level of seeking this type info from an 
 international business; they have to hier someone somehow.  If they don't 
present even the most basics of the procedure, then how is anyone expected to 
learn and become employed?  OK, Joanne, I'm working for Apple.  I'm just going 
to in your words, randomly call you out of my hat, Hi!  Is this Joanne?  Yes!  
My name is chris, and I work with Apple.  Would you like to work for us?  We're 
hierring.  Yeah? freaking right!  Let me know how that phone call goes for ya!  
Would you?

   In fact, if i'm the person that is on the other line, and that doesn't 
matter what company or department it is from, i would have labeled that phone 
call is a spam, and i won't spend any of my time entertaining that caller.

   OK? Then prepare to get fired for hanging up on me.  If I were your 
supervisor, I'd walk your butt out the minute you clicked off that call, and 
did so intentionally.  that is totally unacceptable business etiquette!

   It also suggests some level of immaturity from the caller to just randomly 
call up, and ask ramdom questions that have nothing to do with what my call of 
service is about,

   Matom? we already had this discussion a minute ago.  Therefore, your above 
comment is irrelavent.  This was totally legitimate, and there was no random 
nature to what I did whatsoever.

   in fact, asking me questions that have nothing related with my service of 
duty may be considered insulting.

   And that is because you quite bluntly speaking, take things way way way way 
way! too personally.

   Joanne, if you want to take this up with me further, don't do so with me on 
list please.

   My private e-mail address is:

   clgillan...@gmail.com

   I welcome your comments, but only if they are done privately off list, and! 
if they are done constructively with no annomosity.

   Chris.


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