Hello. Well if they are so seecret about how to get a job i wouldn't even 
bother with them. 



> 19 mar 2015 kl. 20:01 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com>:
> 
> First off, this isn't a complaint, nor is it a drama rant, as much as it's 
> just something that really has me a bit unsettled.  So don't worry.  If 
> you're not for reading, excuse the language, bitch session mail, then don't 
> worry!  I promise that is not at all the nature of the following message.  I 
> cross my heart, so please just hear me out on this.
>  
> I was eating breakfast this morning with both my grandmother and a very very 
> dear friend of mine who is a next door neighbor.  We all three got to talking 
> about the job industry and how with my expertees, and with my level of 
> technical skills when it comes to Apple products both from an accessibility 
> standpoint as well as just in general, how I really probably could be a major 
> benefit to the Apple user consumer market.
>  
> I confess that I have considered employment through Apple several times 
> before, but I guess I never really took it all that seriously.  I mean, I 
> did, but I didn't.  Anyway, long story short, I got to thinking about our 
> discussion once I got back home.  the more I thought about it, the more I 
> realized that they are right.  I really could! make a difference, most likely.
>  
> So, I started brainstorming what department would I probably do the best at, 
> and do I feel needs a team leader as myself.  Naturally, the more I thought 
> about it, the more I kept coming back to the Accessibility department.
>  
> So, I finally said, ok, I'm going to give Apple Accessibility a call, and 
> just see what exactly the criteria would be.  Obviously, I'd have to move 
> either to Austin or somewhere in Calafornia.  That goes without saying.  I'd 
> very much be willing to do either, if it meant me getting hiered.
>  
> So, I called and, ironically, got another gentlemen named Chris... go figure. 
>  Anyway, this is what bothers me big time!   I asked him what the criteria 
> is.  He was incredibly, and I do mean incredibly! cryptic.  He really 
> wouldn't go into even the slightest bit of detail.  He basically said, I'm 
> not authorized to tell you this information.  I'm like, ok, I'm not asking 
> for you to give me the whole novel rundown.  I'm only asking from a very 
> general standpoint.  Obviously, I'd have to transfer my geographic location 
> to where one of the call centers are... that's inevitable.  He's just like, 
> well, yeah?  You would...  I'm like, ow'w'w, kayyy?  and... what about 
> training?  I presume that I'd be required to get several weeks worth of 
> training, wouldn't I?  He's like, that, I cannot go into.  I told him, OK, 
> sir?  I live in North Carolina.  If it wind up being Calafornia that I have 
> to move to, that is almost all the way on the other side of the country.  
> Granted, I wouldn't move until I knew if I'd get the job, but still... that 
> would be quite a huge lifechanging commitment.  Especially moving away from 
> all of my family loved ones, etc.  He's like, OK, well, sir, I can't tell ya. 
>  I'm sorry.  I asked him, then, who can.  He said, I dunno.  I'm not at 
> liberty to say.  I asked him why such the discrete nature.  All I'm asking is 
> generally how to start the process, no more no less.  If he cannot tell me, 
> then please tell me someone who can.
>  
> He continued to be extremely vague.  Finally, after a little bit of sweet 
> talking, he finally ever so slightly mellowed up and told me, OK, look.  You 
> have to first be employed through Apple as just a standard advisor.  Then, 
> eventually, you'd be promoted up to Senior Advisor level whereby you'd then 
> get onboard with the Accessibility Support team.  I told him that made sense. 
>  I asked him, ok, then, no wonder you're a little secretive, as I'm not 
> onboard with Apple right now, let alone a Senior Advisor, so you can't! 
> really talk to me about how to become one.  So... let's go another avenue.  
> How do I become an Apple Advisor employ in general.  Again, uh, sir, I really 
> am not supposed to tell you.  I'm like, then D*** it?  how do people get 
> hiered by you guys!  If you won't tell them where to go, or how to get 
> started with the application process, I mean, yeah, there is
>  
> http://cooljobs.apple.com
>  
> but that still doesn't really answer my question.  I don't want to work for a 
> company who is so quiet about their employmentship process.  I'm sorry, but 
> that's just ridiculous!
>  
> Apple has always been very secretive.  If it's the whole public seed betas of 
> OSX, it's public! It's free! Anyone! can sign up! So what the blue flying 
> heck!  What's the point of NDA with that type of setup.  Fine!  If you don't 
> wanna tell me, I'll just sign up myself, and then find out the NDA stuff for 
> myself.  I get! NDA.  I get! confidentiality legistics, but give! me a! 
> freaking! break for god sake!  If it's not that, it's Apple being very quiet 
> about their job offerings.  If it's not that, it's them not wanting to tell 
> me what cities have call centers, or if I could work with a hardware/soft sip 
> phone from home connected to a PBX system logged into their queue.  It's just 
> one quiet thing after another.
>  
> What about the other day when all ICloud based services went down for over 
> 60% of the whole day?  I could be wrong, and if I am, forgive me, but I don't 
> think to this very day! they've disclosed to the public even on very very 
> general terms their explaination for why they went down.  I can tell you now, 
> my local newstalk radio station was p?... owed.  I mean, the least! they 
> could a done is given us a very very terse, general! reason for the downtime. 
>  Again, it's not like I'm asking for the full in Paul Harvy's words... rest 
> of the story...
>  
> So what gives?  Does anyone know not so much how! to get hiered as an 
> advisor, but more what the requirements are to be so?  I don't speak of, have 
> no criminal background, have a drug free resulted drugscreening test.  Duh!  
> I know all that!  I'm not that far gone.  I'm saying more from a technical 
> standpoint, what is required.
>  
> the guy even told me, check around, as some agencies actually can help you 
> become hiered.  I'm like, Oh, yeah, I know, like Voc Rehab etc.  He's like, 
> no no no.  I'm not talking about that.  I'm talking about direct agencies 
> that work along side us.  I asked him to elaborate, which of corse, he 
> wouldn't.
>  
> I just don't know how comfortable that I feel working for a company who is 
> gonna be so top-secret.  Since when did they become NSA!  Lord a mercy!
>  
> You all's thoughts?
>  
> Chris.
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