In text-Edit,  just hold shift while navigating around to select all you 
pass;  and VO does say so. I did that yesterday, in fact, Shift is one thing 
Windows and even DOS borrowed off Mac for selection.
So for once, it came naturally.

Rh.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "The Believer" <ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: Copying text to clipboard in Preview


    I had to learn to do a copy this weekend. I was in TextEdit. Once I
had the cursor in the right location, I did VO return then used the
arrow keys to select the desired text. Not VO arrow keys, just the arrow
keys alone. When I selected all the text I did VO return again and then
command c then command v where I wanted to paste the text.

 From The Believer. . .
  . . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/7/2014 8:30 AM, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
> Dear Gigi,
>
> Thank you so much for trying.  Like you, I've discovered the copying of 
> the entire document from Preview into a TextEdit document.  The formatting 
> is preserved although I can't say to what extent.
>
> Anne's method will help me copy just a couple of words which is the case 
> from time to time, like for instance a license number or a telephone 
> number.  But your method is a clever one.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Andrew
> On 7 Sep 2014, at 13:56, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi there
>> It may not work in Preview, but I just tested the ability to copy text 
>> using PDf Pen Pro. I couldn't figure out how to select using shift down 
>> arrow, but I did command A and copied to the clipboard. Then I went to 
>> TextEdit, and pasted it into a file. It worked, although I have no idea 
>> if it kept the formatting. It talked fine, though.
>>
>> I used a short form to test this. If you want, I can use a longer form to 
>> test it and see what happens.
>>
>> Gigi
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2014, at 6:48 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You can't copy text from the Preview Payne as I've tried it in the past 
>>> as it's not accessible I don't think.
>>>
>>> Kawal.
>>> On 7 Sep 2014, at 10:46, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Andrew,
>>>>
>>>> The command you are using to try to select text is the command for 
>>>> selecting non-contiguous items. The command you want is VO-Return at 
>>>> the beginning and end of the text you wish to select. You should hear a 
>>>> whooshing sound as you select the text.
>>>>
>>>> You could also try the usual way of selecting text, Shift plus arrow 
>>>> keys.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Anne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7 Sep 2014, at 10:45, Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Listers,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to copy some text to clipboard in Preview.  I activate the 
>>>>> select command with vo+command+return, i hear the familiar sound, and 
>>>>> then I use vo+arrow keys to select the text I want.  I then press 
>>>>> vo+command+return to finish selecting and press the usual command+c 
>>>>> command to copy to clipboard.  But when I go to paste it to another 
>>>>> application, like textEdit, nothing gets copied. I hear a bong that 
>>>>> tells me there's nothing on the clipboard.  I tried copying the 
>>>>> selected text without the final vo+command+return but got the same nul 
>>>>> result.  Has anyone been able to copy text successfully in Preview 
>>>>> with Voiceover?
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>
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