Intresting my iMac doesn’t have a cd drive. I am quite happy with using fusion, but I thought there was a way to take a vm and port over to a boot camp partition. Matthew
On May 8, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Tristan <theblinddj...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Matthew, > You might find this useful, although it does seem a little bit out of date. > http://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-os-x/installing-and-configuring-bootcamp-without-sighted-assistance > > On 5/8/14, matthew dyer <ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I wish there was a way to install windows without sited help using boot >> camp. I don’t even have a thumb drive to uuse at the moment, but just >> saying and perhaps it is a little bit off topic. >> >> Matthew >> >> >> On May 7, 2014, at 6:19 PM, Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Okay. I wasn't going to pipe in, but I purchased my Mac Air last Labor Day >>> weekend and got an 11?. You must have big, fat fingers because the keys >>> are just fine for me. As far as battery life concerns, the 13 inch does >>> have the 11 inch beat, but my decision was to put the money into the SSSD >>> to 512. To me, this was more important especially when I knew I would need >>> some of this precious disk space for Win 8 installed in bootcamp. >>> >>> When thinking about either using bootcamp with Windows or VM Ware decide >>> which programs need to be install and how much power you will need to run >>> it all. I took the bootcamp route and I'm glad I did after reading the >>> threads others have posted in the past related to a program that wouldn't >>> install, problems with JAWS, or just other silly stuff. I wanted to have >>> full power on the Win side. HTH. >>> >>> Best, >>> Eileen >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 7, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>>> My business has an elve-inch, but if I ever have the money, I'd do the >>>> thirteen. The battery is indeed better, but I'd want the SD slot. There >>>> is a device called a Nifty Mini Drive, which is a micro SD card holder >>>> that sits flush with the MBA's body. It gives you up to 64gb of storage >>>> on the card, but is flush so you never even know it's there. Also, the >>>> function keys across the top are larger on the bigger model, and I use >>>> them enough that I'd like them to be big instead of tiny. >>>> On May 7, 2014, at 10:10 AM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I went for the 13 inch Air as well when I bought back in July last. >>>>> Battery life was a consideration but I also like the feel of the 13 inch >>>>> better than the 11 inch. Ergonomics matter too. >>>>> >>>>> On May 7, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Tristan <theblinddj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I got the 13 inch for the battery life. 11 inch has 9 hours, compared >>>>>> to the 13 inch which has 12. While using a virtual machine -- or -- >>>>>> Windows in general, it's important to have as much battery life as >>>>>> possible, as Windows lacks the excellent power management that OSX >>>>>> has. That three hours could mean a large difference in terms of how >>>>>> much battery life is taken off from virtual machines. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/7/14, Kayaker <sea...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You should be all set. But I have to admit I’m puzzled why you went >>>>>>> for the >>>>>>> 13 inch instead of the 11 inch Air? The screen seems like a silly >>>>>>> place to >>>>>>> invest dollars if you can’t see it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regardless, the specs will serve you well for quite some time for what >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> stated needs are. Think hard about using bootcamp or VMware Fusion as >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> Windows solution. Pros and cons both ways. Check the archives here for >>>>>>> lots >>>>>>> of tips. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> —k >>>>>>> Faith doesn’t give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> questions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 6, 2014, at 7:45 PM, Tristan <theblinddj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I opted with the 13 inch MacBook Air early 2014 model. 1.7 GHZ >>>>>>>> (turboboost up to 3.3 GHz), 256 GB SSD and 8 GB RAM. I think from >>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>> I've heard so far I should be more than set for either VM or >>>>>>>> bootcamp. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 5/6/14, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Do you only get 32 RAM on an iMac? As this is what I have! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 6 May 2014, at 09:41 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The main constraint I've noticed when running virtual machines is >>>>>>>>>> Windows >>>>>>>>>> beats on the hard drive. So my CPU will be taking a nap while >>>>>>>>>> Windows >>>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>>> who-knows-what on the hard drive. In other words, Windows is an >>>>>>>>>> I/O >>>>>>>>>> bound >>>>>>>>>> not CPU bound process. Sure, if you're doing something CPU >>>>>>>>>> intensive on >>>>>>>>>> there like encoding audio or calculating 10K digits of pi the CPU >>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>> matter but generally spinning disks have not kept up with the leaps >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> CPU >>>>>>>>>> performance. So I would drop more money on SSD than CPU. Of >>>>>>>>>> course, >>>>>>>>>> then, >>>>>>>>>> there's RAM. If you don't have enough the system will swap least >>>>>>>>>> used >>>>>>>>>> chunks of memory to disk to make room for stuff you actually need. >>>>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>>>> swap to disk process can turn any fast drive and CPU to sludge. >>>>>>>>>> Now >>>>>>>>>> days >>>>>>>>>> machines ship with 4GB of RAM or more and that seems to work >>>>>>>>>> pretty >>>>>>>>>> well >>>>>>>>>> in most cases. If you're running Windows in a virtual machine that >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> going to suck up a good chunk of RAM and keep it as long as it is >>>>>>>>>> running. >>>>>>>>>> So for virtual machine users I'd bump up the RAM to avoid going >>>>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>>>> swaps-a-lot mode. I just upgraded a Mac Mini from 4 to 16GB. Cost >>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>> about $160 which, as an old computer geezer, is just crazy cheap. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/14, 12:46 PM, David Taylor wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> It's plenty. My MBA runs faster with a VM than any Windows machine >>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>> ever >>>>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4 May 2014, at 17:31, Tristan <theblinddj...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Would the 1.7 GHZ processor in a MacBook Air be enough for a >>>>>>>>>>>> virtual >>>>>>>>>>>> machine though? Or does most of the dependency rely on RAM. >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have much experience with the whole virtual machine >>>>>>>>>>>> front, so >>>>>>>>>>>> clarification would definitely be welcome. I originally only >>>>>>>>>>>> opted >>>>>>>>>>>> with the MacBook Pro because of the higher processor statistics, >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> glancing at a fully decked out MacBook Air 13 inch and a MacBook >>>>>>>>>>>> Pro >>>>>>>>>>>> 13 inch retina, they come out to roughly the same price. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/14, David Taylor <e.david.tay...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Many externals just work, even if they don't say they are >>>>>>>>>>>>> compattible, >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> we are needing such drives less and less often now anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4 May 2014, at 14:31, Eileen Misrahi >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will ditto what David said. The way I handle a DVD/CD ROM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an external one. There are plenty out there that shouldn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> cost >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>>>>>>> $20. The one I have is from my PC netbook days that didn't have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> internal DVD drive. Just make sure that the drive is compatible >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Macs. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH. Oh by the way, I purchased an 11 inch MBA with all specs >>>>>>>>>>>>>> max >>>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's well worth the cost if you can do it. I'm in the process >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> loading >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the software that I can't run on the Mac on the PC side >>>>>>>>>>>>>> through >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootcamp and it's doing a terrific job, barring the user's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mistakes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> learning Win 8. Good luck and I know you will enjoy the MBA. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take care. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eileen >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2014, at 5:31 AM, David Taylor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <e.david.tay...@icloud.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've gone for the 11 inch myself. I maxed everything out on it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is plenty good enough for me. If you don't need a built in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slot, it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has everything the 13 inch does, and easy enough to get any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adaptors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need for connections it doesn't have, such as Ethanet if you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The portability is just awesome, performance perfectly good >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost every conceivable use, and I get hours of battery even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside, streaming, tweeting, downloading and all sorts. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> USB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub I plug in for connecting and charging everything. Works >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4 May 2014, at 07:31, Tristan <theblinddj...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This was a great post. It really reopens the door to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potentially >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting a Mac Air -- thanks Kayaker. I'd even maybe go for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13-incher, as it offers a longer battery life; though I may >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unnecessarily attempting to over compensate in terms of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statistics. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd be happy to discuss this further with you offlist. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/3/14, Kayaker <sea...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There have been a lot of unsupported and non objective >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> query. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All Macs you can buy today are solid performers. We have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in CPU performance that there's little difference between >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and top of the line machines for us who can't see, what's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between 500 frames per second in some game vs. 450 frames >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your eye can't tell the difference. I promise you the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> average >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac barely breaks 30% cpu day to day. This part of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market is declining--people don't need to upgrade as often >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the past. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is absolutely no reason to buy the Macbook Pro if you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cost is mainly in the retina screen. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The single most important factor is internal memory. That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> significant real world speed boost for you and will help you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootcamp and or a virtual PC situation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't bother paying for the processor upgrade. Do max out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RAM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The internal hard drive SSD is the other place to put your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sweet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spot in price seems to be 256G. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some people will argue that using VM to run Windows needs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ounce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processor speed. I'll again argue the real world throughput >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be negligible. I suggest you test it out for yourself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apple >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been using Macs since the beginning. They last. I still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PowerMac >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> G 5 that's 10 years old. Part of it works better than my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MacBook >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Air >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running the latest version of Mavericks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For a blind person, the 11 inch MacBook Air is a steal. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RAM on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entry level version and pick a HD size that fits your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doubt my suggestions? Go to an apple store and see if you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference between the two models. You won't. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take the lightness, portability and power of the current 11 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Air, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put the extra dollars towards apps. And if you don't want a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> save >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even more and get the MacMini. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --k >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 2, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Tristan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <theblinddj...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been a part of this group for some time now, and have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoyed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wealth of information that I've gleaned from observing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come to the decision on switching from Windows to Mac. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting a MacBook Air, or MacBook Pro. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the big things for me, however, is virtual machines >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootcamp). I still want to be able to virtualize a copy of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case I have programs that will only work on the Windows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now, the main things I do on Windows are word processing, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browsing, Skype which would be possible on the Mac side, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> music >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occasional game (mostly MUDs using a low memory client). I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get a steady balance between battery power and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without having to deal with busyness and lag. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have my eye on the MacBook Air 13 inch (with both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> options) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the MacBook Pro. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MacBook Air configuration - 13 inch (256GB SSD HD): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 memory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or the MacBook pro (without Retina, 13 inch): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.9GHz Dual-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM -- 2x4GB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm really stuck at this point -- what will work the bes? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sort of nerve-racking putting a large amount of money into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's already two years old. In all, I'm looking for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will last, has updated hardware, and can handle an OS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alongside the Mac environment without any hiccups. I'm on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> budget >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 1,550 dollars. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I warmly welcome any advice. And yes, I know this list is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mainly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voiceover users -- but I thought, as a visually impaired >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it would be appropriate to ask here. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Tristan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> send >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, >>>>>>>>>>>>> send >>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>> it, >>>>>>>>>>>> send >>>>>>>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send >>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send >>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an >>>>>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex Hall >>>> mehg...@icloud.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
