Hi Matthew, You might find this useful, although it does seem a little bit out of date. http://www.applevis.com/guides/mac-os-x/installing-and-configuring-bootcamp-without-sighted-assistance
On 5/8/14, matthew dyer <ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I wish there was a way to install windows without sited help using boot > camp. I don’t even have a thumb drive to uuse at the moment, but just > saying and perhaps it is a little bit off topic. > > Matthew > > > On May 7, 2014, at 6:19 PM, Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Okay. I wasn't going to pipe in, but I purchased my Mac Air last Labor Day >> weekend and got an 11?. You must have big, fat fingers because the keys >> are just fine for me. As far as battery life concerns, the 13 inch does >> have the 11 inch beat, but my decision was to put the money into the SSSD >> to 512. To me, this was more important especially when I knew I would need >> some of this precious disk space for Win 8 installed in bootcamp. >> >> When thinking about either using bootcamp with Windows or VM Ware decide >> which programs need to be install and how much power you will need to run >> it all. I took the bootcamp route and I'm glad I did after reading the >> threads others have posted in the past related to a program that wouldn't >> install, problems with JAWS, or just other silly stuff. I wanted to have >> full power on the Win side. HTH. >> >> Best, >> Eileen >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 7, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >>> My business has an elve-inch, but if I ever have the money, I'd do the >>> thirteen. The battery is indeed better, but I'd want the SD slot. There >>> is a device called a Nifty Mini Drive, which is a micro SD card holder >>> that sits flush with the MBA's body. It gives you up to 64gb of storage >>> on the card, but is flush so you never even know it's there. Also, the >>> function keys across the top are larger on the bigger model, and I use >>> them enough that I'd like them to be big instead of tiny. >>> On May 7, 2014, at 10:10 AM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I went for the 13 inch Air as well when I bought back in July last. >>>> Battery life was a consideration but I also like the feel of the 13 inch >>>> better than the 11 inch. Ergonomics matter too. >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Tristan <theblinddj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I got the 13 inch for the battery life. 11 inch has 9 hours, compared >>>>> to the 13 inch which has 12. While using a virtual machine -- or -- >>>>> Windows in general, it's important to have as much battery life as >>>>> possible, as Windows lacks the excellent power management that OSX >>>>> has. That three hours could mean a large difference in terms of how >>>>> much battery life is taken off from virtual machines. >>>>> >>>>> On 5/7/14, Kayaker <sea...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> You should be all set. But I have to admit I’m puzzled why you went >>>>>> for the >>>>>> 13 inch instead of the 11 inch Air? The screen seems like a silly >>>>>> place to >>>>>> invest dollars if you can’t see it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regardless, the specs will serve you well for quite some time for what >>>>>> your >>>>>> stated needs are. Think hard about using bootcamp or VMware Fusion as >>>>>> your >>>>>> Windows solution. Pros and cons both ways. Check the archives here for >>>>>> lots >>>>>> of tips. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> —k >>>>>> Faith doesn’t give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking >>>>>> the >>>>>> questions. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 6, 2014, at 7:45 PM, Tristan <theblinddj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I opted with the 13 inch MacBook Air early 2014 model. 1.7 GHZ >>>>>>> (turboboost up to 3.3 GHz), 256 GB SSD and 8 GB RAM. I think from >>>>>>> what >>>>>>> I've heard so far I should be more than set for either VM or >>>>>>> bootcamp. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 5/6/14, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Do you only get 32 RAM on an iMac? As this is what I have! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 6 May 2014, at 09:41 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The main constraint I've noticed when running virtual machines is >>>>>>>>> Windows >>>>>>>>> beats on the hard drive. So my CPU will be taking a nap while >>>>>>>>> Windows >>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>> who-knows-what on the hard drive. In other words, Windows is an >>>>>>>>> I/O >>>>>>>>> bound >>>>>>>>> not CPU bound process. Sure, if you're doing something CPU >>>>>>>>> intensive on >>>>>>>>> there like encoding audio or calculating 10K digits of pi the CPU >>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>> matter but generally spinning disks have not kept up with the leaps >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> CPU >>>>>>>>> performance. So I would drop more money on SSD than CPU. Of >>>>>>>>> course, >>>>>>>>> then, >>>>>>>>> there's RAM. If you don't have enough the system will swap least >>>>>>>>> used >>>>>>>>> chunks of memory to disk to make room for stuff you actually need. >>>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>>> swap to disk process can turn any fast drive and CPU to sludge. >>>>>>>>> Now >>>>>>>>> days >>>>>>>>> machines ship with 4GB of RAM or more and that seems to work >>>>>>>>> pretty >>>>>>>>> well >>>>>>>>> in most cases. If you're running Windows in a virtual machine that >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> going to suck up a good chunk of RAM and keep it as long as it is >>>>>>>>> running. >>>>>>>>> So for virtual machine users I'd bump up the RAM to avoid going >>>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>>> swaps-a-lot mode. I just upgraded a Mac Mini from 4 to 16GB. Cost >>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>> about $160 which, as an old computer geezer, is just crazy cheap. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/14, 12:46 PM, David Taylor wrote: >>>>>>>>>> It's plenty. My MBA runs faster with a VM than any Windows machine >>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>> ever >>>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>>>> On 4 May 2014, at 17:31, Tristan <theblinddj...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Would the 1.7 GHZ processor in a MacBook Air be enough for a >>>>>>>>>>> virtual >>>>>>>>>>> machine though? Or does most of the dependency rely on RAM. >>>>>>>>>>> I don't have much experience with the whole virtual machine >>>>>>>>>>> front, so >>>>>>>>>>> clarification would definitely be welcome. I originally only >>>>>>>>>>> opted >>>>>>>>>>> with the MacBook Pro because of the higher processor statistics, >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> glancing at a fully decked out MacBook Air 13 inch and a MacBook >>>>>>>>>>> Pro >>>>>>>>>>> 13 inch retina, they come out to roughly the same price. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/14, David Taylor <e.david.tay...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Many externals just work, even if they don't say they are >>>>>>>>>>>> compattible, >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> we are needing such drives less and less often now anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4 May 2014, at 14:31, Eileen Misrahi >>>>>>>>>>>>> <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will ditto what David said. The way I handle a DVD/CD ROM >>>>>>>>>>>>> drive >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>>>> an external one. There are plenty out there that shouldn't >>>>>>>>>>>>> cost >>>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>>>>>> $20. The one I have is from my PC netbook days that didn't have >>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>> internal DVD drive. Just make sure that the drive is compatible >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> Macs. >>>>>>>>>>>>> HTH. Oh by the way, I purchased an 11 inch MBA with all specs >>>>>>>>>>>>> max >>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> it's well worth the cost if you can do it. I'm in the process >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> loading >>>>>>>>>>>>> all the software that I can't run on the Mac on the PC side >>>>>>>>>>>>> through >>>>>>>>>>>>> bootcamp and it's doing a terrific job, barring the user's >>>>>>>>>>>>> mistakes >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> learning Win 8. Good luck and I know you will enjoy the MBA. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Take care. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Eileen >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2014, at 5:31 AM, David Taylor >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <e.david.tay...@icloud.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've gone for the 11 inch myself. I maxed everything out on it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is plenty good enough for me. If you don't need a built in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SD >>>>>>>>>>>>>> slot, it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> has everything the 13 inch does, and easy enough to get any >>>>>>>>>>>>>> adaptors >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need for connections it doesn't have, such as Ethanet if you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The portability is just awesome, performance perfectly good >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> almost every conceivable use, and I get hours of battery even >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sat >>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside, streaming, tweeting, downloading and all sorts. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> USB >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hub I plug in for connecting and charging everything. Works >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> me, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4 May 2014, at 07:31, Tristan <theblinddj...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This was a great post. It really reopens the door to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potentially >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting a Mac Air -- thanks Kayaker. I'd even maybe go for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13-incher, as it offers a longer battery life; though I may >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unnecessarily attempting to over compensate in terms of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statistics. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd be happy to discuss this further with you offlist. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/3/14, Kayaker <sea...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There have been a lot of unsupported and non objective >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> query. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All Macs you can buy today are solid performers. We have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reached >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in CPU performance that there's little difference between >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and top of the line machines for us who can't see, what's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between 500 frames per second in some game vs. 450 frames >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> second >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your eye can't tell the difference. I promise you the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> average >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac barely breaks 30% cpu day to day. This part of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market is declining--people don't need to upgrade as often >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the past. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is absolutely no reason to buy the Macbook Pro if you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cost is mainly in the retina screen. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The single most important factor is internal memory. That >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> significant real world speed boost for you and will help you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootcamp and or a virtual PC situation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't bother paying for the processor upgrade. Do max out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RAM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The internal hard drive SSD is the other place to put your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sweet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spot in price seems to be 256G. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some people will argue that using VM to run Windows needs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ounce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processor speed. I'll again argue the real world throughput >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will be negligible. I suggest you test it out for yourself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apple >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been using Macs since the beginning. They last. I still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PowerMac >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> G 5 that's 10 years old. Part of it works better than my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MacBook >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Air >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running the latest version of Mavericks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For a blind person, the 11 inch MacBook Air is a steal. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RAM on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entry level version and pick a HD size that fits your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needs. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doubt my suggestions? Go to an apple store and see if you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference between the two models. You won't. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take the lightness, portability and power of the current 11 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Air, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put the extra dollars towards apps. And if you don't want a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laptop, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> save >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even more and get the MacMini. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --k >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Faith doesn't give you the answers, it merely stops you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On May 2, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Tristan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <theblinddj...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been a part of this group for some time now, and have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enjoyed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wealth of information that I've gleaned from observing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> finally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come to the decision on switching from Windows to Mac. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting a MacBook Air, or MacBook Pro. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the big things for me, however, is virtual machines >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bootcamp). I still want to be able to virtualize a copy of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case I have programs that will only work on the Windows >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now, the main things I do on Windows are word processing, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> browsing, Skype which would be possible on the Mac side, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> music >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> occasional game (mostly MUDs using a low memory client). I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get a steady balance between battery power and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without having to deal with busyness and lag. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have my eye on the MacBook Air 13 inch (with both >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> options) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or the MacBook Pro. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MacBook Air configuration - 13 inch (256GB SSD HD): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 memory >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or the MacBook pro (without Retina, 13 inch): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.9GHz Dual-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM -- 2x4GB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm really stuck at this point -- what will work the bes? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sort of nerve-racking putting a large amount of money into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's already two years old. In all, I'm looking for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will last, has updated hardware, and can handle an OS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alongside the Mac environment without any hiccups. I'm on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> budget >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about 1,550 dollars. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I warmly welcome any advice. 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