Its not that though, I don't want it there at all. If there was a way that we 
could turn it off, like on the phone that would be brilliant.
Matt Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670 ext. 4




On Mar 3, 2014, at 1:38 AM, Shawn Krasniuk <bbssh...@icloud.com> wrote:

> Hi Matt. I've written to them about that pitch change bug many times since 
> Lion and they sorta fixed it, but it's still there when encountering things 
> like data detectors or edit fields. If you're still getting these pitch 
> changes outside those parts I've mentioned, there is a way to fix this. If 
> you have your letters set to change pitch when you type in a capital letter 
> or delete, simply set those options to beep or do nothing.
> 
> Shawn
> Sent From My White MacBook
> 
> On Mar 2, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Matt Dierckens <matt.dierck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Speaking of vocalizer, I would encourage people write to apple accessibility 
>> about this pitch change bug.
>> Take a listen at what I mean.
>> Really annoying nuance vocalizer pitch change bug, has been here since ML: 
>> https://t.co/C1AAhEpYo4
>> Matt Dierckens
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> 
>>> I don't know where you are from, but this is a dialect issue, not a problem 
>>> with the nuance voice.  As I would speak those words, there is no 
>>> difference between to and two, or for and four.  Obviously in some regions 
>>> of the U.S., that isn't the case (not sure about this situation in other 
>>> countries).
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I don't usually forward Apple's responses, as they are all the same. This 
>>>> one is different, though, and I'm curious to see how many of you agree. 
>>>> Personally, I find the Nuance voices in 10.9.2 speak "to" and "for" as 
>>>> numbers, and this throws off the speech quite a bit. It also makes 
>>>> everything sound like it was written on a phone keypad by someone in a 
>>>> hurry. As you see below, however, this Apple rep cannot tell the 
>>>> difference. Please email Apple, using this case number so they know which 
>>>> issue you mean, and tell them if you, too, can hear how bad these two 
>>>> vital words sound in the latest OSX update. If you can't hear the 
>>>> difference, I'd be curious to hear about that too. Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Apple Accessibility <accessibil...@apple.com>
>>>>> Subject: [440611] Nuance Voices Pronouncing Words as Letters/Numbers in 
>>>>> 10.9.2
>>>>> Date: February 28, 2014 at 9:33:43 AM EST
>>>>> To: mehg...@icloud.com
>>>>> Reply-To: Apple Accessibility <accessibil...@apple.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Hello, 
>>>>>  Thank you for your email. With the Voice Ava I've not been able to 
>>>>> detect a difference between the pronunciations of 
>>>>> the words for or four or the number 4. I've also not been able to to 
>>>>> detect the difference between to or too or two or
>>>>> the number 2. I can hear a very slight difference in pronunciation 
>>>>> between to and two with Alex but it is very subtle.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will however pass this along for further examination. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apple Accessibility
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please also visit our sites
>>>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
>>>>> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Have a great day,
>>>> Alex Hall
>>>> mehg...@icloud.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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