Good idea, assuming the Applevis team lets me. Still, that would be a perfect way to get this more wide-spread, and a direct comparison will be easier than people trying to remember what one system sounds like over another. On Mar 2, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Daniel <danielmcgee...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Or better yet, if you feel strongly about it Alex and if the moderators won't > allow MP3's to be submitted on the list. Upload a demo to Applevis where for > the parties who are interested in what your denying to go and check it out > and comment should it be necessary upon the issue. > This is just an idea you'll understand and its totally up to you but thought > I'd mention applevis as it's a popular site. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 2 Mar 2014, at 16:49, Mike Busboom <mbusb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello Alex, >> >> I am still using Mountain Lion and have no plans to "upgrade" until >> complaints about accessibility are less frequent. Therefore, I, and others >> like me, can't really comment on this. However, I was wondering if you >> could attach a small MP3 file (if the list owners don't mind) in which we >> could hear precisely what you mean? We, too, could then add our voices to >> any comments directed to the Apple Accessibility team. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Mike >> >> On 2,Mar,2014, at 3:46 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >>> In 10.9.1 and below, the pronunciation was way different. Pronouncing "to" >>> like "two" or "for" like "four" throws the stress of the word off, and >>> causes things to sound very different. If possible, have a Nuance voice in >>> anything below 10.9.2 speak this: >>> I am going to the store for some milk. >>> Now have a 10.9.2 voice say that same sentence, and the difference should >>> be plain. Are you saying you don't notice a difference, or that the 10.9.2 >>> way sounds closer to what you would expect to hear? >>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Alex, >>>> >>>> I don't know where you are from, but this is a dialect issue, not a >>>> problem with the nuance voice. As I would speak those words, there is no >>>> difference between to and two, or for and four. Obviously in some regions >>>> of the U.S., that isn't the case (not sure about this situation in other >>>> countries). >>>> Best, >>>> Donna >>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> I don't usually forward Apple's responses, as they are all the same. This >>>>> one is different, though, and I'm curious to see how many of you agree. >>>>> Personally, I find the Nuance voices in 10.9.2 speak "to" and "for" as >>>>> numbers, and this throws off the speech quite a bit. It also makes >>>>> everything sound like it was written on a phone keypad by someone in a >>>>> hurry. As you see below, however, this Apple rep cannot tell the >>>>> difference. Please email Apple, using this case number so they know which >>>>> issue you mean, and tell them if you, too, can hear how bad these two >>>>> vital words sound in the latest OSX update. If you can't hear the >>>>> difference, I'd be curious to hear about that too. Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>>> From: Apple Accessibility <accessibil...@apple.com> >>>>>> Subject: [440611] Nuance Voices Pronouncing Words as Letters/Numbers in >>>>>> 10.9.2 >>>>>> Date: February 28, 2014 at 9:33:43 AM EST >>>>>> To: mehg...@icloud.com >>>>>> Reply-To: Apple Accessibility <accessibil...@apple.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> Thank you for your email. With the Voice Ava I've not been able to >>>>>> detect a difference between the pronunciations of >>>>>> the words for or four or the number 4. I've also not been able to to >>>>>> detect the difference between to or too or two or >>>>>> the number 2. I can hear a very slight difference in pronunciation >>>>>> between to and two with Alex but it is very subtle. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I will however pass this along for further examination. >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple Accessibility >>>>>> >>>>>> Please also visit our sites >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Have a great day, >>>>> Alex Hall >>>>> mehg...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex Hall >>> mehg...@icloud.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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