hey,
can't remember if this has been talked about on list but the VO voice alex has 
a nasty habit of spelling out certon words that it finds.
i can't replicate the problem because no particular word comes to mind.

thanks

Michael


On 3 Mar 2014, at 4:30 am, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:

> Good idea, assuming the Applevis team lets me. Still, that would be a perfect 
> way to get this more wide-spread, and a direct comparison will be easier than 
> people trying to remember what one system sounds like over another.
> On Mar 2, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Daniel <danielmcgee...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Or better yet, if you feel strongly about it Alex and if the moderators 
>> won't allow MP3's to be submitted on the list. Upload a demo to Applevis 
>> where for the parties who are interested in what your denying to go and 
>> check it out and comment should it be necessary upon the issue. 
>> This is just an idea you'll understand and its totally up to you but thought 
>> I'd mention applevis as it's a popular site. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2 Mar 2014, at 16:49, Mike Busboom <mbusb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Alex,
>>> 
>>> I am still using Mountain Lion and have no plans to "upgrade" until 
>>> complaints about accessibility are less frequent.  Therefore, I, and others 
>>> like me, can't really comment on this.  However, I was wondering if you 
>>> could attach a small MP3 file (if the list owners don't mind) in which we 
>>> could hear precisely what you mean?  We, too, could then add our voices to 
>>> any comments directed to the Apple Accessibility team.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>>  
>>> On 2,Mar,2014, at 3:46 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> In 10.9.1 and below, the pronunciation was way different. Pronouncing "to" 
>>>> like "two" or "for" like "four" throws the stress of the word off, and 
>>>> causes things to sound very different. If possible, have a Nuance voice in 
>>>> anything below 10.9.2 speak this:
>>>> I am going to the store for some milk.
>>>> Now have a 10.9.2 voice say that same sentence, and the difference should 
>>>> be plain. Are you saying you don't notice a difference, or that the 10.9.2 
>>>> way sounds closer to what you would expect to hear?
>>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know where you are from, but this is a dialect issue, not a 
>>>>> problem with the nuance voice.  As I would speak those words, there is no 
>>>>> difference between to and two, or for and four.  Obviously in some 
>>>>> regions of the U.S., that isn't the case (not sure about this situation 
>>>>> in other countries).
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> I don't usually forward Apple's responses, as they are all the same. 
>>>>>> This one is different, though, and I'm curious to see how many of you 
>>>>>> agree. Personally, I find the Nuance voices in 10.9.2 speak "to" and 
>>>>>> "for" as numbers, and this throws off the speech quite a bit. It also 
>>>>>> makes everything sound like it was written on a phone keypad by someone 
>>>>>> in a hurry. As you see below, however, this Apple rep cannot tell the 
>>>>>> difference. Please email Apple, using this case number so they know 
>>>>>> which issue you mean, and tell them if you, too, can hear how bad these 
>>>>>> two vital words sound in the latest OSX update. If you can't hear the 
>>>>>> difference, I'd be curious to hear about that too. Thanks!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: Apple Accessibility <accessibil...@apple.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: [440611] Nuance Voices Pronouncing Words as Letters/Numbers in 
>>>>>>> 10.9.2
>>>>>>> Date: February 28, 2014 at 9:33:43 AM EST
>>>>>>> To: mehg...@icloud.com
>>>>>>> Reply-To: Apple Accessibility <accessibil...@apple.com>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   Hello, 
>>>>>>>  Thank you for your email. With the Voice Ava I've not been able to 
>>>>>>> detect a difference between the pronunciations of 
>>>>>>> the words for or four or the number 4. I've also not been able to to 
>>>>>>> detect the difference between to or too or two or
>>>>>>> the number 2. I can hear a very slight difference in pronunciation 
>>>>>>> between to and two with Alex but it is very subtle.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I will however pass this along for further examination. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apple Accessibility
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please also visit our sites
>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/
>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> mehg...@icloud.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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