hey, can't remember if this has been talked about on list but the VO voice alex has a nasty habit of spelling out certon words that it finds. i can't replicate the problem because no particular word comes to mind.
thanks Michael On 3 Mar 2014, at 4:30 am, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: > Good idea, assuming the Applevis team lets me. Still, that would be a perfect > way to get this more wide-spread, and a direct comparison will be easier than > people trying to remember what one system sounds like over another. > On Mar 2, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Daniel <danielmcgee...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Or better yet, if you feel strongly about it Alex and if the moderators >> won't allow MP3's to be submitted on the list. Upload a demo to Applevis >> where for the parties who are interested in what your denying to go and >> check it out and comment should it be necessary upon the issue. >> This is just an idea you'll understand and its totally up to you but thought >> I'd mention applevis as it's a popular site. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2 Mar 2014, at 16:49, Mike Busboom <mbusb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello Alex, >>> >>> I am still using Mountain Lion and have no plans to "upgrade" until >>> complaints about accessibility are less frequent. Therefore, I, and others >>> like me, can't really comment on this. However, I was wondering if you >>> could attach a small MP3 file (if the list owners don't mind) in which we >>> could hear precisely what you mean? We, too, could then add our voices to >>> any comments directed to the Apple Accessibility team. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On 2,Mar,2014, at 3:46 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>>> In 10.9.1 and below, the pronunciation was way different. Pronouncing "to" >>>> like "two" or "for" like "four" throws the stress of the word off, and >>>> causes things to sound very different. If possible, have a Nuance voice in >>>> anything below 10.9.2 speak this: >>>> I am going to the store for some milk. >>>> Now have a 10.9.2 voice say that same sentence, and the difference should >>>> be plain. Are you saying you don't notice a difference, or that the 10.9.2 >>>> way sounds closer to what you would expect to hear? >>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Alex, >>>>> >>>>> I don't know where you are from, but this is a dialect issue, not a >>>>> problem with the nuance voice. As I would speak those words, there is no >>>>> difference between to and two, or for and four. Obviously in some >>>>> regions of the U.S., that isn't the case (not sure about this situation >>>>> in other countries). >>>>> Best, >>>>> Donna >>>>> On Mar 2, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> I don't usually forward Apple's responses, as they are all the same. >>>>>> This one is different, though, and I'm curious to see how many of you >>>>>> agree. Personally, I find the Nuance voices in 10.9.2 speak "to" and >>>>>> "for" as numbers, and this throws off the speech quite a bit. It also >>>>>> makes everything sound like it was written on a phone keypad by someone >>>>>> in a hurry. As you see below, however, this Apple rep cannot tell the >>>>>> difference. Please email Apple, using this case number so they know >>>>>> which issue you mean, and tell them if you, too, can hear how bad these >>>>>> two vital words sound in the latest OSX update. If you can't hear the >>>>>> difference, I'd be curious to hear about that too. Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Apple Accessibility <accessibil...@apple.com> >>>>>>> Subject: [440611] Nuance Voices Pronouncing Words as Letters/Numbers in >>>>>>> 10.9.2 >>>>>>> Date: February 28, 2014 at 9:33:43 AM EST >>>>>>> To: mehg...@icloud.com >>>>>>> Reply-To: Apple Accessibility <accessibil...@apple.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> Thank you for your email. With the Voice Ava I've not been able to >>>>>>> detect a difference between the pronunciations of >>>>>>> the words for or four or the number 4. I've also not been able to to >>>>>>> detect the difference between to or too or two or >>>>>>> the number 2. I can hear a very slight difference in pronunciation >>>>>>> between to and two with Alex but it is very subtle. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I will however pass this along for further examination. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apple Accessibility >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please also visit our sites >>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/ >>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/support/accessibility/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>> Alex Hall >>>>>> mehg...@icloud.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex Hall >>>> mehg...@icloud.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex Hall > mehg...@icloud.com > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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