Hi, Aparently, though I don't have an iPhone or the information at my fingertips, since I am not a seeding developer at Apple.
The information was strictly from a post posted on-list. Regards, Alex, Regards, Alex, On 23-Jul-09, at 11:52 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: > You're saying I can click the home button three times and get VO > running on the iPhone and that it works in a beta version now? > > CB > > Alex Jurgensen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> 3.2.1 or something has a tripple tap of the home button to launch it. >> >> Though this is in beta it was posted here a while back. >> >> Regards, >> Alex, >> >> >> On 19-Jul-09, at 4:36 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: >> >> >>> James, >>> >>> It's a fair point about not being able to run voiceover on the >>> iPhone >>> unaided without access to iTunes. What I'd like to see in an update >>> is the ability to launch and disable VO with a voice command. I've >>> emailed Apple about it and got a hopeful response. I'm guessing >>> that >>> seeing as the Nano's and Shuffle's need to be activated with iTunes >>> Apple went for consistancy, either that or it or the idea didn't >>> occur >>> to them. >>> >>> You have to admit though that being able to activate it yourself >>> even >>> through iTunes is a lot closer to true out of the box accessibility >>> than blundering your way through a Symbian time/date setup and an >>> instalation of your prefered screen reader, or worse still, >>> relying on >>> Nokia's Voiceaid offering. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> On 7/19/09, James & Nash <james.austin1...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I have not seen one yet, but I am going to spend some time with an >>>> Apple rep >>>> tomorrow. >>>> >>>> I agree, it is really nice to see a mainstream vender include a >>>> Screen >>>> Reader for no extra cost, but then the IPhone is considerably more >>>> expensive >>>> than other models but then you have to pay for Talks or Mobile >>>> Speak. The >>>> only thing I would disagree with is the view that the IPhone is >>>> accessible >>>> "out of the box". From all that I've read and heard, we cannot turn >>>> VO on >>>> ourselves without access to ITunes - so if we do not have access to >>>> it >>>> immediately, then we cannot access the phone by ourselves. Perhaps >>>> this is a >>>> literal take on the phrase "accessible out of the box", but then >>>> the phrase >>>> lends itself to that way of thinking. >>>> >>>> Take care >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottcheswo...@gmail.com> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:11 PM >>>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Will said: i think that most people are jumping to the iphone as >>>>> it >>>>> new but the n eighty two does everything that does >>>>> >>>>> Real world says: apart from out of the box accessibility to the >>>>> entire >>>>> User interface, a far broader scope for additional apps, and a UI >>>>> that >>>>> can only increase a VI user's often lacking knowledge of all >>>>> things >>>>> layout. There's so many pro's and cons to each device for each >>>>> user. >>>>> If Symbian and actual buttons will always float your boat more >>>>> then >>>>> fair enough, use it and prosper, it's here to stay for a while >>>>> yet. >>>>> But Dismissing one of the few big accessibility efforts made by a >>>>> mainstream vender as the same old same old with a gimicky new >>>>> touch >>>>> screen thing before you've even had experience with it is an >>>>> attitude >>>>> that will ensure we're always slightly behind the trend with >>>>> technology, so well done you. >>>>> >>>>> Slightly ranty perhaps, but I hope you see my point. And in >>>>> case I >>>>> get labeled an iPhone fanatic, I don't own one. I've tinkered and >>>>> mostly enjoyed the experience, seemed to me that any barriers I >>>>> felt >>>>> like I was facing with the device were entirely due to my lack of >>>>> experience with an interface where I'm closer to being even with >>>>> any >>>>> sighted user than I've ever been before. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7/19/09, william lomas <lomaswill...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> i think that most people are jumping to the iphone as it new but >>>>>> the n >>>>>> eighty two does everything that does >>>>>> >>>>>> On 19 Jul 2009, at 09:35, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, I had a sit down and play with the I phone for about an >>>>>>> hour >>>>>>> today and >>>>>>> I gotta admit, the biggest problem is familiarity. >>>>>>> I'm so use to the Nokia and talks interface that the IPhones >>>>>>> system >>>>>>> is not >>>>>>> as efficient yet as I would have hoped. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However I gotta admit that I am thinking of reasons why I >>>>>>> shouldn't >>>>>>> change >>>>>>> to one at this point, and the only reason so far is that my n82 >>>>>>> does >>>>>>> everything that the iphone does and that I need it to. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kaare >>>>>>> dehard >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:29 a.m. >>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Honestly given what I have heard/read, because this interface is >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> very different from what we have grown accustomed to, it's >>>>>>> probably >>>>>>> tough to get fixed on it right away. it's probably a let's >>>>>>> forget >>>>>>> about the old wisdom or at least set it aside while looking in >>>>>>> to this >>>>>>> and start from the ground. So, in a nutshell this is more like a >>>>>>> slow >>>>>>> growth to understanding product rather than something that can >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> quickly affixed. >>>>>>> On 18-Jul-09, at 7:10 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just wondering how many of you that are now using the Ipone >>>>>>>> 3gs, are >>>>>>>> totally blind rather than the partially / Visually impaired >>>>>>>> users. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The device to me sounds more like it's for a VI person than a >>>>>>>> totally blind >>>>>>>> person. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm total and I'm trying to compare this for useage / >>>>>>>> accessibility >>>>>>>> against >>>>>>>> my Nokia s60 device. >>>>>>>> And as I've only had a very quick play with the IPhone 3gs I >>>>>>>> can't >>>>>>>> say I'm >>>>>>>> fixed on it yet. >>>>>>>> And I'm keen to hear how the totally blind users are getting on >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Simonf. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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