Hello Simon and all:

One question you might want to consider is the issue of expandability.  
I am a user of a nokia 6650 with Mobile Speak and I love it. However,  
the number of applications that will work with it is not as robust as  
the Iphone. Second, while both my Mobile Speak and voiceover upgrades  
are free, the method of upgrading is quite different. I do not know  
about talks because I have never used it. However, if it is anything  
like Mobile Speak I cannot upgrade it independently. The only reason I  
make a point of this is the ability of being able to keep up with the  
latest updates to a system rather than being one step behind.  
Furthermore, does it make sense to have to pay a transfer cost if you  
either lose your phone or decide you want or need a new one. In the  
case of Mobile Speak, if you change phones for whatever reason there  
is a transfer cost. I do not know how it works with Talks. If I want  
another Iphone I just get another Iphone without incurring any  
additional costs for things beyond my control which may have resulted  
in the phone's loss or just for the freedom of wanting something  
different.

There are a few more reasons I can mention though I will point out  
only one more ... with this arrangement of the Iphone and AT&T, the  
entire customer service flow is for the first time under one roof. If  
I have a problem with the Iphone I am able to take it to AT&T and they  
can be of assistance without necessarily farming it out to someone  
else and if they do farm it out to someone else ... that would be  
Apple and they would know that I am on the way (smile). With Mobile  
Speak it could be a mobile speak issue which I would have to go to  
Code Factory, it could be a phone problem where Nokia would have to be  
called in, it could be a billing problem where the Phone company would  
have to be tapped and, if I had a problem with the actual purchase of  
Mobile Speak and I did not purchase it from Code Factory I then would  
have to deal with AT&T's office of national disability concerns which  
is a completely separate operation from AT&T. I like the one umbrella  
that the Iphone has the potential to provide. I have both and love  
both and see the advantages to each.

Just my two cents contributed to the discussion. No matter what your  
final conclusion, it will be a good one.

Take good care.
On Jul 19, 2009, at 4:35 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

>
> Yeah, I had a sit down and play with the I phone for about an hour  
> today and
> I gotta admit, the biggest problem is familiarity.
> I'm so use to the Nokia and talks interface that the IPhones system  
> is not
> as efficient  yet as I would have hoped.
>
> However I gotta admit that I am thinking of reasons why I shouldn't  
> change
> to one at this point,  and the only reason so far is that my n82 does
> everything that the iphone does and that I need it to.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kaare dehard
> Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:29 a.m.
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
>
>
> Honestly given what I have heard/read, because this interface is so
> very different from what we have grown accustomed to, it's probably
> tough to get fixed on it right away. it's probably a let's forget
> about the old wisdom or at least set it aside while looking in to this
> and start from the ground. So, in a nutshell this is more like a slow
> growth to understanding product rather than something that can be
> quickly affixed.
> On 18-Jul-09, at 7:10 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Just wondering how many of you that are now using the Ipone 3gs, are
>> totally blind rather than the partially / Visually impaired users.
>>
>> The device to me sounds more like it's for a VI person than a
>> totally blind
>> person.
>>
>> I'm total  and I'm trying to compare this for useage / accessibility
>> against
>> my Nokia s60 device.
>> And as I've only had a very quick play with the IPhone 3gs I can't
>> say I'm
>> fixed on it yet.
>> And I'm keen to hear how the totally blind users are getting on with
>> it.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Simonf.
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
> >

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Love

Me


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