You're saying I can click the home button three times and get VO running on the iPhone and that it works in a beta version now?
CB Alex Jurgensen wrote: > Hi, > > 3.2.1 or something has a tripple tap of the home button to launch it. > > Though this is in beta it was posted here a while back. > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 19-Jul-09, at 4:36 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote: > > >> James, >> >> It's a fair point about not being able to run voiceover on the iPhone >> unaided without access to iTunes. What I'd like to see in an update >> is the ability to launch and disable VO with a voice command. I've >> emailed Apple about it and got a hopeful response. I'm guessing that >> seeing as the Nano's and Shuffle's need to be activated with iTunes >> Apple went for consistancy, either that or it or the idea didn't occur >> to them. >> >> You have to admit though that being able to activate it yourself even >> through iTunes is a lot closer to true out of the box accessibility >> than blundering your way through a Symbian time/date setup and an >> instalation of your prefered screen reader, or worse still, relying on >> Nokia's Voiceaid offering. >> >> Scott >> >> On 7/19/09, James & Nash <james.austin1...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> I have not seen one yet, but I am going to spend some time with an >>> Apple rep >>> tomorrow. >>> >>> I agree, it is really nice to see a mainstream vender include a >>> Screen >>> Reader for no extra cost, but then the IPhone is considerably more >>> expensive >>> than other models but then you have to pay for Talks or Mobile >>> Speak. The >>> only thing I would disagree with is the view that the IPhone is >>> accessible >>> "out of the box". From all that I've read and heard, we cannot turn >>> VO on >>> ourselves without access to ITunes - so if we do not have access to >>> it >>> immediately, then we cannot access the phone by ourselves. Perhaps >>> this is a >>> literal take on the phrase "accessible out of the box", but then >>> the phrase >>> lends itself to that way of thinking. >>> >>> Take care >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottcheswo...@gmail.com> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:11 PM >>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility >>> >>> >>> >>>> Will said: i think that most people are jumping to the iphone as it >>>> new but the n eighty two does everything that does >>>> >>>> Real world says: apart from out of the box accessibility to the >>>> entire >>>> User interface, a far broader scope for additional apps, and a UI >>>> that >>>> can only increase a VI user's often lacking knowledge of all things >>>> layout. There's so many pro's and cons to each device for each >>>> user. >>>> If Symbian and actual buttons will always float your boat more then >>>> fair enough, use it and prosper, it's here to stay for a while yet. >>>> But Dismissing one of the few big accessibility efforts made by a >>>> mainstream vender as the same old same old with a gimicky new touch >>>> screen thing before you've even had experience with it is an >>>> attitude >>>> that will ensure we're always slightly behind the trend with >>>> technology, so well done you. >>>> >>>> Slightly ranty perhaps, but I hope you see my point. And in case I >>>> get labeled an iPhone fanatic, I don't own one. I've tinkered and >>>> mostly enjoyed the experience, seemed to me that any barriers I felt >>>> like I was facing with the device were entirely due to my lack of >>>> experience with an interface where I'm closer to being even with any >>>> sighted user than I've ever been before. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7/19/09, william lomas <lomaswill...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> i think that most people are jumping to the iphone as it new but >>>>> the n >>>>> eighty two does everything that does >>>>> >>>>> On 19 Jul 2009, at 09:35, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, I had a sit down and play with the I phone for about an hour >>>>>> today and >>>>>> I gotta admit, the biggest problem is familiarity. >>>>>> I'm so use to the Nokia and talks interface that the IPhones >>>>>> system >>>>>> is not >>>>>> as efficient yet as I would have hoped. >>>>>> >>>>>> However I gotta admit that I am thinking of reasons why I >>>>>> shouldn't >>>>>> change >>>>>> to one at this point, and the only reason so far is that my n82 >>>>>> does >>>>>> everything that the iphone does and that I need it to. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kaare dehard >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:29 a.m. >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Honestly given what I have heard/read, because this interface is >>>>>> so >>>>>> very different from what we have grown accustomed to, it's >>>>>> probably >>>>>> tough to get fixed on it right away. it's probably a let's forget >>>>>> about the old wisdom or at least set it aside while looking in >>>>>> to this >>>>>> and start from the ground. So, in a nutshell this is more like a >>>>>> slow >>>>>> growth to understanding product rather than something that can be >>>>>> quickly affixed. >>>>>> On 18-Jul-09, at 7:10 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just wondering how many of you that are now using the Ipone >>>>>>> 3gs, are >>>>>>> totally blind rather than the partially / Visually impaired >>>>>>> users. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The device to me sounds more like it's for a VI person than a >>>>>>> totally blind >>>>>>> person. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm total and I'm trying to compare this for useage / >>>>>>> accessibility >>>>>>> against >>>>>>> my Nokia s60 device. >>>>>>> And as I've only had a very quick play with the IPhone 3gs I >>>>>>> can't >>>>>>> say I'm >>>>>>> fixed on it yet. >>>>>>> And I'm keen to hear how the totally blind users are getting on >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Simonf. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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