You're saying I can click the home button three times and get VO running 
on the iPhone and that it works in a beta version now?

CB

Alex Jurgensen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 3.2.1 or something has a tripple tap of the home button to launch it.
>
> Though this is in beta it was posted here a while back.
>
> Regards,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 19-Jul-09, at 4:36 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>
>   
>> James,
>>
>> It's a fair point about not being able to run voiceover on the iPhone
>> unaided without access to iTunes.  What I'd like to see in an update
>> is the ability to launch and disable VO with a voice command.  I've
>> emailed Apple about it and got a hopeful response.  I'm guessing that
>> seeing as the Nano's and Shuffle's need to be activated with iTunes
>> Apple went for consistancy, either that or it or the idea didn't occur
>> to them.
>>
>> You have to admit though that being able to activate it yourself even
>> through iTunes is a lot closer to true out of the box accessibility
>> than blundering your way through a Symbian time/date setup and an
>> instalation of your prefered screen reader, or worse still, relying on
>> Nokia's Voiceaid offering.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 7/19/09, James & Nash <james.austin1...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> I have not seen one yet, but I am going to spend some time with an  
>>> Apple rep
>>> tomorrow.
>>>
>>> I agree, it is really nice to see a mainstream vender include a  
>>> Screen
>>> Reader for no extra cost, but then the IPhone is considerably more  
>>> expensive
>>> than other models but then you have to pay for Talks or Mobile  
>>> Speak. The
>>> only thing I would disagree with is the view that the IPhone is  
>>> accessible
>>> "out of the box". From all that I've read and heard, we cannot turn  
>>> VO on
>>> ourselves without access to ITunes - so if we do not have access to  
>>> it
>>> immediately, then we cannot access the phone by ourselves. Perhaps  
>>> this is a
>>> literal take on the phrase "accessible out of the box", but then  
>>> the phrase
>>> lends itself to that way of thinking.
>>>
>>> Take care
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Scott Chesworth" <scottcheswo...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Will said: i think that most people are jumping to the iphone as it
>>>> new but the n eighty two does everything that does
>>>>
>>>> Real world says: apart from out of the box accessibility to the  
>>>> entire
>>>> User interface, a far broader scope for additional apps, and a UI  
>>>> that
>>>> can only increase a VI user's often lacking knowledge of all things
>>>> layout.  There's so many pro's and cons to each device for each  
>>>> user.
>>>> If Symbian and actual buttons will always float your boat more then
>>>> fair enough, use it and prosper, it's here to stay for a while yet.
>>>> But Dismissing one of the few big accessibility efforts made by a
>>>> mainstream vender as the same old same old with a gimicky new touch
>>>> screen thing before you've even had experience with it is an  
>>>> attitude
>>>> that will ensure we're always slightly behind the trend with
>>>> technology, so well done you.
>>>>
>>>> Slightly ranty perhaps, but I hope you see my point.  And in case I
>>>> get labeled an iPhone fanatic, I don't own one.  I've tinkered and
>>>> mostly enjoyed the experience, seemed to me that any barriers I felt
>>>> like I was facing with the device were entirely due to my lack of
>>>> experience with an interface where I'm closer to being even with any
>>>> sighted user than I've ever been before.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/19/09, william lomas <lomaswill...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> i think that most people are jumping to the iphone as it new but  
>>>>> the n
>>>>> eighty two does everything that does
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19 Jul 2009, at 09:35, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Yeah, I had a sit down and play with the I phone for about an hour
>>>>>> today and
>>>>>> I gotta admit, the biggest problem is familiarity.
>>>>>> I'm so use to the Nokia and talks interface that the IPhones  
>>>>>> system
>>>>>> is not
>>>>>> as efficient  yet as I would have hoped.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However I gotta admit that I am thinking of reasons why I  
>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>> change
>>>>>> to one at this point,  and the only reason so far is that my n82  
>>>>>> does
>>>>>> everything that the iphone does and that I need it to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kaare dehard
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 19 July 2009 7:29 a.m.
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: IPhone accessibility
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Honestly given what I have heard/read, because this interface is  
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> very different from what we have grown accustomed to, it's  
>>>>>> probably
>>>>>> tough to get fixed on it right away. it's probably a let's forget
>>>>>> about the old wisdom or at least set it aside while looking in  
>>>>>> to this
>>>>>> and start from the ground. So, in a nutshell this is more like a  
>>>>>> slow
>>>>>> growth to understanding product rather than something that can be
>>>>>> quickly affixed.
>>>>>> On 18-Jul-09, at 7:10 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just wondering how many of you that are now using the Ipone  
>>>>>>> 3gs, are
>>>>>>> totally blind rather than the partially / Visually impaired  
>>>>>>> users.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The device to me sounds more like it's for a VI person than a
>>>>>>> totally blind
>>>>>>> person.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm total  and I'm trying to compare this for useage /  
>>>>>>> accessibility
>>>>>>> against
>>>>>>> my Nokia s60 device.
>>>>>>> And as I've only had a very quick play with the IPhone 3gs I  
>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>> say I'm
>>>>>>> fixed on it yet.
>>>>>>> And I'm keen to hear how the totally blind users are getting on  
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Simonf.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>           
>>>       
>
>
> >
>   

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