On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Andre Poenitz wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 12:52:06PM +1000, Allan Rae wrote:
> > Nearly everything that's needed for a better system is in place
> > already with this work but I'd rather see this patch committed to
> > a branch (so it won't be lost) and then extended to a better overall
> > UI than risk this incomplete work slipping through into a production
> > 1.3.0.
>
> I beg to differ. The patch makes some things possible that have not been
> possible before. Moreover, that feature has been asked for several times.
> The implementation is fairly good isolated, so it can be ripped off as
> soon as we _have_ something better.  [And no, I don't believe the core is
> already "there"].

I'm saying there isn't far to go to get this to a much better state
than it is now.  Most of the work has been done already -- in this
patch in fact -- just the last 10% to get rid of "free floating"
optional arguement insets (and preferably section insets similar to
many of the previous discussions).

I just don't want the current patch in 1.3.0 -- the work should be
finished before then otherwise there'll be some yucky conversions to
handle.

> > > I believe I can simplify bibitem a little, though.
> >
> > Finish this work and I think you'll find that bibitems could be
> > incorporated into an improved implementation.
>
> The proper solutions IMNSHO are proper insets (and possibly some
> transition from 'paragraph styles' to 'inset styles' or something
> close to that). But we are not there and I don't see coming that soon.

That could well be necessary for a better bibitems replacement but
let's not have free-floating optional arguements in 1.3.0.

Allan. (ARRae)

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