>>>>> "Dekel" == Dekel Tsur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I would like to point out that, in this particular case, it is very
>> easy to add usepackage{babel} just before the renewcommand. Just a
>> matter of telling people to add one line in their preamble.
Dekel> But how would a user know where this information is written ?
I think I documented it un UPGRADING, but of course it should be in
herbert's tips...
>> OTOH, here are packages which really need to be before babel (and
>> it seems to me that this is recommended in general)
Dekel> In lyx < 1.2.0, the user could tell lyx not to put
Dekel> \usepackage{babel} automatically (by using the default
Dekel> language), and put \usepackage{babel} manually in the preamble.
Dekel> So it not a big problem.
This switch is a pref setting, so it is not very useful in this
situation. It should be a per document setting. And then I am not sure
it is the real fix.
>> Do you really think that avoiding one extra line is soooo
>> important?
Dekel> Yes. Why this has to fixed now?
I did not want to fix it in 1.1.6 because I did not want to annoy
people without getting feedback first. Then I sent a message to
lyx-devel explaining what I was going to do and why. Then I did the
change in october. And now 7 months later you are surprised? Sorry,
but I did not have enough cash to afford an ad on CNN. I even added
you as cc of the bug one month ago, but got no comment.
Seriously, I understand your frustration. However, I have yet to see a
decent solution to this problem. It is just a matter of getting used
to it. But of course this breaks some 1.1.6 documents, so maybe
something else has to be done.
Anyway, I am not in a position to do anything about it now and won't
be for next month. Since this has to be resolved for 1.1.6, I propose
that either john or lars get to decide what to do with it after
listening to the different factions.
I am somewhat pissed off that this issue is only discussed seriously
_now_ (I did have some extensive discussions with herbert on that,
though).
JMarc
